Google translation, tweaked by Cryptome via @reflets
States are “very good at it. Mine is. I’ve been director of the NSA and intelligence gathering reasons against legitimate targets, stealing information from other states. This does not put us on par with the Chinese. The Chinese steal things, and we Americans steal. But we do it to ensure the safety of our citizens, we do not do it to enrich our citizens, and that is the difference between us and the Chinese,” said Hayden, at the panel on “Intelligence and Cyber Security.”
The second are “criminal groups” found in the former Soviet satellites. They consist of a lot of “talented people working for pay to steal things or to destroy networks on behalf of others.”
The third group is made up of anarchists and activists, as well Guccifer who “do not do it for profit, but simply do.”
In his opinion, the most dangerous is the third group .
"States should be responsible for their actions. They should be careful that their actions have consequences. Groups have less control, but ultimately, they’re parasites. They live on the backs of others. Parasites can not find a way to survive after destroying their “host.”
“I’m bad, but not a catastrophe,” said the American general.