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  • Bertolucci Wasn’t the First Man to Abuse a Woman and Call It Art and He Won’t Be the Last

    Women," Pablo Picasso once proclaimed, “are machines for suffering.” Throughout his lifetime, he did his best to prove that true. Compulsively unfaithful, Picasso collected models, slept with them, and brutalized them, alternating icy control — he demanded submissiveness in all things, and warned one woman, Francoise Gilot, that as far as he was concerned, women were “either goddesses or doormats” — with horrific physical violence. Picasso pinned Gilot to a bridge railing and threatened to throw her into the river for seeming “ungrateful;” when she tried to leave, he held a lit cigarette to her cheek to brand her. He forced Dora Maar to physically fight Marie-Therese Walter, the mother of his child, for his affections — he stayed in the room throughout the brawl, painting — and beat Maar into unconsciousness himself on at least one occasion.

    Yet, even though we know all this about Picasso, his violence is often downplayed or indirectly excused. On MoMA’s Dora Maar page, she is labeled “Picasso’s muse and lover” and “the subject for many of his paintings,” not his victim.

    #grands_hommes via @mona

    • In the case of Tippi Hedren, Hitchcock had already sexually assaulted her off set. Replacing the safe prop birds with panicked, clawing live ones was a punishment for Hedren’s refusal to sleep with him, not a cinematic masterstroke aimed at helping Hedren to convey the complex and subtle emotion that is “ouch, a bird.”

    • #groumpf un autre :(

      Chilean director Alejandro #Jodorowsky, for example, has been teasing the idea of an unsimulated rape scene in his cult classic film El Topo for decades. (“I really raped [the actress]. And she screamed,” he said in 1974, though he’s elsewhere described the unsimulated sex in that scene as consensual.) This has not endangered his status as an avant-garde icon.


      extrait du livre de jodorowski sur El topo :

      “When I wanted to do the rape scene, I explained to [Mara Lorenzio] that I was going to hit her and rape her. There was no emotional relationship between us, because I had put a clause in all the women’s contracts stating that they would not make love with the director. We had never talked to each other. I knew nothing about her. We went to the desert with two other people: the photographer and a technician. No one else. I said, ’I’m not going to rehearse. There will be only one take because it will be impossible to repeat. Roll the cameras only when I signal you to.’ Then I told her, ’Pain does not hurt. Hit me.’ And she hit me. I said, ’Harder.’ And she started to hit me very hard, hard enough to break a rib...I ached for a week. After she had hit me long enough and hard enough to tire her, I said, ’Now it’s my turn. Roll the cameras.’ And I really...I really...I really raped her. And she screamed.”

    • J’en suis a me demander si ce qui distingue un artiste genial d’un artiste qui ne l’est pas c’est cette utilisation de la violence contre les femmes et les domine.e.s. L’art qui fait rêver les dominants c’est l’expression de ce droit à dominer et la magnification de ce droit en action.
      Le sublime c’est cette dose de sévices reeles mie en oeuvre dans l’œuvre pour satisfaire les dominants dans leur exercise de la domination.

      Comme dit Jodo, « coucher avec les actrices, c’est mieux pour l’art » et Picassso ou Hamilton dirons « coucher avec le model, c’est mieux pour l’art ». En fait ils ont raison, l’Art c’est mieux si il y a une femme ou une fille vraiment humilié, baisée, brutalisée, dominée... Dedans. Ca staisfait spirituellement les dominants, et en remerciement ces Genis reconnus bénéficient d’un permis de dominer sans limite.

    • Découvrir ces aspects d’une personne qu’on admire c’est là que ca deviens compliqué et désagréable. En général chez moi ca fini par un dégoût complet du personnage et de son œuvre car je suis assez binaire. Pour Jodo et les autres artistes mentionné dans ces échanges j’avoue que j’en ai jamais apprécié aucun alors j’ai pas ce problème ici.
      Et j’avoue que pour Picasso, je le vomis depuis toute gosse, il m’a toujours fait pensé à un anthropophage avec un pinceau.