• Il faut se rendre compte que les deux déclarations d’aujourd’hui, par Biden et Harris, sont beaucoup plus extrémistes que… l’administration de Bush en 2004 après les assassinats des chefs du Hamas. En 2004, l’administration Bush s’était inquiété des conséquences. Aujourd’hui Biden et Harris s’enthousiasment pour l’assassinat de Nasrallah, accompagné d’au moins 300 autres victimes selon Israël.

    Cette équipe arrive à être encore plus tarée que Georges W. “Gog et Magog” Bush…

    Bush Backs Israel on Self-Defense [24 mars 2004]
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2004/03/24/bush-backs-israel-on-self-defense/a10dcbd3-b816-41a0-843e-fce4ec1cb62e

    Bush said the Middle East is “a troubled region and the attacks were troubling. There needs to be a focused, concerted effort by all parties to fight terror.” He expressed hope that Israel “keeps consequences in mind as to how to make sure we stay on the path to peace.”

    On Monday, State Department spokesman Richard A. Boucher said the United States was “deeply troubled” by Israel’s killing of Yassin, which “increases tension and doesn’t help our efforts to resume progress towards peace.”

    Guarded U.S. Statement Urges Israeli Restraint [18 avril 2004]
    https://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/18/world/guarded-us-statement-urges-israeli-restraint.html

    The Bush administration issued a guarded expression of concern about Israel’s killing of the new Gaza Strip leader of Hamas on Saturday, saying that it ’’strongly urges’’ Israel to exercise restraint in retaliating for Palestinian attacks at a particularly delicate moment.

    After several hours of conferring about what to do following the killing of Dr. Abdel Aziz Rantisi, the White House press secretary, Scott McClellan, issued a statement on Saturday evening that said the United States was ’’gravely concerned for regional peace and stability’’ following Israel’s action.

  • #Bibby_Stockholm en 2023... des bateaux au large de la #Jamaïque pour « accueillir » des #réfugiés_haïtiens qui demandaient l’asile aux #USA en 1994...

    The likely agreement would allow the United States to anchor or dock large ships in a Jamaican port or at least close to shore, the officials said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/06/01/jamaica-will-help-us-process-haitians/2a40705d-253a-48e7-8e53-f523e156d07b

    –—

    JAMAICA WILL HELP U.S. PROCESS HAITIANS

    The United States has reached an agreement with Jamaica to set up a facility on the Caribbean island to process Haitian refugees, according to officials close to negotiations that have been taking place between the two nations for several days.

    The agreement is likely to be announced today in Kingston, the officials said. This is the first time another government has offered to help the Clinton administration share the burden of handling those who flee Haiti’s military regime by taking to the sea, most of them seeking political asylum in the United States.

    Aside from providing a diplomatic boost to the administration’s efforts, Jamaica has helped resolve logistical problems that have bedeviled U.S. officials for weeks.

    The United States asked Jamaica to consider hosting a refugee facility last week and since then U.S. and Jamaican officials have been engaged in almost continuous discussions, here and in Kingston.

    The likely agreement would allow the United States to anchor or dock large ships in a Jamaican port or at least close to shore, the officials said. The ships would be used to house Haitians picked up by the Coast Guard and would serve as a processing center where their applications for refugee status would be heard and adjudicated. U.S. officials could be housed on land along with all facilities needed to support the ships.

    President Clinton’s special advisor on Haiti, former House member William H. Gray III, was to arrive in Jamaica yesterday afternoon and begin meetings with top Jamaican officials today. Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott is due to begin a visit to Kingston Thursday.

    A formal agreement on a processing facility could be announced during these meetings, officials said, and the first Haitians could be brought to Jamaica as early as the beginning of next week.

    “We are encouraged by the progress that has been made in the talks and we are hopeful progress will continue and that we will be able to say something more on this soon,” a senior U.S. official said. In recent weeks Clinton repeatedly has emphasized his desire to pursue a policy on Haiti with international and especially regional support.

    He was able to win such backing for tighter economic sanctions against Haiti, which went into effect on May 21. But it has proved more difficult for Clinton to get help with the other half of his Haitian dilemma, the handling of boat people.

    After protests by civil rights groups and refugee advocates, Clinton on May 8 ended a policy of automatically returning all Haitians picked up at sea without giving them a chance to seek the shelter of refugee status.

    Instead he promised to set up facilities that would let the Haitians apply for refugee status, which entitles them to permanent resettlement in the United States. Clinton insisted, however, that most boat people were likely to be rejected and sent back.

    Although it has held discussions with a number of governments in the regions, the only expression of support the administration had received thus far was an agreement with the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees to cooperate on handling the boat people.

    Last week the United States sought permission to locate a processing facility on the Turks and Caicos Islands, a British dependency, but has yet to receive a response.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/06/01/jamaica-will-help-us-process-haitians/2a40705d-253a-48e7-8e53-f523e156d07b

    –—

    Jamaica to Let U.S. Anchor Ship Off Coast

    Jamaica agreed today to let the United States anchor ships in its waters so American officials can hold shipboard hearings to determine whether fleeing Haitians qualify for refugee status.

    The Jamaican decision represents a diplomatic victory for the Clinton Administration, which promised last month to provide individual hearings for Haitian boat people rather than forcibly send them back without hearings. Later, the Administration realized it did not have a suitable place to conduct such hearings.

    The Clinton Administration has been eager to find processing centers in third countries because fleeing Haitians who are processed in the United States often remain for years even if their asylum applications are rejected because Federal courts can permit them to stay until their appeals are exhausted.

    The Administration has been under pressure to set up the shipboard processing as soon as possible because it has been in the embarrassing position of continuing to summarily repatriate Haitians without interviews even though President Clinton announced on May 8 that he was abandoning this policy.

    [ The United States Coast Guard returned 63 fleeing Haitians to Port-au-Prince Wednesday, the third group repatriated in a week, Reuters reported. That brought to 1,439 the number of refugees brought back to their homeland since Washington said it would halt the practice. ] Ship Heads for Kingston

    After the United States and Jamaica announced their agreement, Administration officials said they hoped to have a large American ship anchored in Kingston harbor within several days to begin interviewing Haitian emigrants.

    “They’d like to start this at the beginning of next week,” said Barbara Francis, the United States spokeswoman for the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, which is working with the Clinton Administration on setting up the processing.

    The plan is for a 1,000-bed Navy hospital ship to arrive in Jamaica this week so it can begin processing what American officials expect to be a steady stream of fleeing Haitians. In light of a recent United Nations decision to tighten the trade embargo against Haiti, Administration officials fear an accelerating exodus.

    About 300 Americans will work on the hospital ship, including Immigration and Naturalization Service officials who will conduct hearings and Navy personnel who run the ship.
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    In addition, about 10 employees of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees will work on the ship to provide training for the American hearing officers and will counsel the Haitian applicants. U.S. to Cover All Costs

    Christine Shelly, a State Department spokeswoman, said the United States will cover all costs connected to the shipboard processing.

    Jamaica has not asked Washington for any payment for allowing American ships to anchor in its waters, but Jamaican officials have conveyed their displeasure that the Clinton Administration has not appointed an Ambassador to Jamaica and is cutting economic aid to the island.

    Under the Administration’s plan, Coast Guard cutters will pick up Haitian boat people in the Caribbean and take them to Kingston Harbor. Haitians who are found to have a well-founded fear of persecution in their homeland will be transported to the United States, or perhaps another country. Those whose claim of persecution is declared to be not well-founded will be taken back to Haiti.

    “We would hope they would go not only to the U.S., but that other countries would step forward to accept some of them,” an Administration official said concerning those granted asylum. Hope for Turks and Caicos

    United States officials say they still hope that the Turks and Caicos Islands, a British-ruled group of small islands off the Bahamas, will agree to allow Washington to set up processing centers there.

    The legislative council of those islands is scheduled to meet on Friday to consider Washington’s request.

    Turks and Caicos officials have offered the United States an uninhabited island, but Washington is concerned about the lack of docking facilities and potable water on the island.

    The United States sent a second ship to Jamaica today. That ship, a leased, 700-bed Ukrainian cruise ship, will be anchored in Kingston to handle the spillover from the Navy hospital ship, or it will be anchored off the Turks and Caicos Islands, officials said. -------------------- Haitian Files Suit

    A Haitian refugee who was chopped with a machete and left for dead in her homeland filed a $30 million lawsuit in Brooklyn yesterday against a far-right political group in Haiti.

    The refugee, Alerte Belance, who now lives in Newark, N.J., sued the Haitian Front of Advancement and Progress in Federal Court for an attack last fall that cost her a right arm and left her with deep gashes on her neck and across her face.

    Her suit is based on a ruling that allows some victims of human rights abuses committed abroad to seek redress in an American court.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/02/world/jamaica-to-let-us-anchor-ship-off-coast.html

    #USA #asile #migrations #bateau #réfugiés #Etats-Unis #externalisation #procédure_d'asile

    –—
    Sur la #Bibby_Stockholm :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/997047
    https://seenthis.net/messages/1000870

    Et la métaliste autour des #îles qui sont utilisées (ou dont il a été question d’imaginer de le faire) pour y envoyer des #réfugiés :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/881889

  • Plus ou moins Depardieu | Isabelle Alonso
    http://www.isabelle-alonso.com/ou-moins-depardieu
    sept 2004

    “ …maladresse de ma part : je ne me suis absolument pas rendu compte de ce que pouvaient provoquer mes propos. Dans cette interview, j’évoquais ces viols qui existaient quand j’étais môme – et qui doivent sans doute exister encore – dans les fêtes foraines, les bals de village, quand les mecs sont en bande avec des filles plus ou moins consentantes. Ça n’a rien à voir avec un viol dans un train de banlieue ou avec ces pauvres filles, victimes de tournantes dans les caves de cités. Non, c’étaient des nanas qui faisaient partie de la bande ; Et puis, un soir, tout ce petit monde boit un coup de trop, ça s’échauffe et voilà… Ça n’excuse rien, ça ne justifie rien, mais oui, ce genre d’histoire existait à Châteauroux et sans doute ailleurs. On a voulu me faire dire que je trouvais ça normal. Mais je n’ai jamais dit une chose pareille : j’ai juste dit que c’était fréquent et c’était, hélas, la vérité ”.

    #culture_du_viol #viol #fraternité

    • UNE AFFAIRE DE VIOL ?
      Lundi, 25 Mars, 1991

      LA 63e cérémonie des Oscars aura lieu à Hollywood dans la nuit de lundi à mardi. D’ici là, la polémique sur « l’affaire Depardieu » ne sera sûrement pas éteinte, en tout cas pas de ce côté-ci de l’Atlantique, où elle prend désormais figure de cabale anti-française. Le ministre de la Culture, Jack Lang, est allé jusqu’à se déclarer « attristé, navré, étonné, un peu indigné par les méthodes utilisées et l’ampleur de la campagne, totalement disproportionnée », lancée aux USA contre l’interprète de « Cyrano de Bergerac », le film de Jean-Paul Rappeneau, déjà grand vainqueur des Césars, d’ores et déjà nommé cinq fois (meilleur acteur, meilleur film en langue étrangère, meilleurs décors, meilleurs costumes et meilleurs maquillages) pour la récompense la plus fameuse de l’industrie cinématographique.

      A l’origine de l’histoire, il y a cette interview de Depardieu, publiée en 1978 dans le magazine « Film Comment », dans laquelle notre Cyrano aurait avoué avoir participé à un viol à l’âge de neuf ans. Et une journaliste de « Time », qui aurait levé le lièvre dans sa documentation, de lui demander : « Et après cela, il y a eu d’autres viols ? » « Oui », lui aurait-il été répondu, mais c’était absolument normal dans ces circonstances. Cela faisait partie de mon enfance. »

      L’organisation de femmes américaines NOW (National Organisation of Women) est aussitôt montée au créneau (les statistiques accusent le chiffre effarant de 100 000 viols pour la seule année passée aux USA). « Cet homme est une insulte pour les femmes et les hommes qui ont le souci des femmes », s’est écriée leur présidente, qui va jusqu’a réclamer des dommages et intérêts pour les victimes de viols en général.

      Depardieu, dans une interview au « Monde », s’est inscrit en faux contre les déclarations qu’on lui a prêtées, tandis que Rappeneau fait savoir que ses avocats américains ayant décrypté la bande magnétique incriminée, aucun des propos de l’acteur n’étayerait l’imputation de viol. Une action en justice va donc être intentée contre « Time » et « Washington Post » qui a repris l’information. Rappeneau estime que ces attaques délibérées ont à voir avec le fait que son film a connu du succès aux Etats-Unis, ce qui serait intolérable pour cette nation aux moeurs étroitement protectionnistes, en matière de cinéma comme d’eau gazeuse. Voir Perrier.

      En tout cas, Depardieu, qui se défend comme un beau diable (« Je démens catégoriquement les propos que m’a attribués « Time magazine » à propos d’un « viol » que j’aurais commis à l’âge de neuf ans. C’est infâmant, à neuf ans comme à tout âge. Certes, on peut dire que j’ai eu des expériences sexuelles très jeune, mais un viol, jamais. Je respecte trop les femmes. ») ne se rendra vraisemblablement pas à Hollywood pour le grand tralala de la nuit prochaine. Il vient de commencer le tournage à l’île Maurice, sous la direction de Gérard Lauzier, d’un film intitulé « Mon père, ce héros ».

    • Un commentaire cite l’interview mais je trouve pas d’autre sources ;

      L’affaire remonte à une interview accordée – en français – par l’acteur à une journaliste du « Time Magazine », Victoria Foote, le 4 février dernier.
      LOUBARD DANS
      TOUTE SA CANDEUR
      A la fin de l’interview qui constituait un portrait de l’artiste d’ailleurs extrêmement élogieux, la journaliste, qui parle parfaitement la langue de Molière, fait allusion à une révélation faite, il y a 13 ans, à la revue de cinéma « Film Comment ». Elle lui demande s’il est vrai qu’il aurait « participé » à son premier viol à l’âge de 9 ans.
      – Oui, répond l’acteur.
      – En avez-vous commis d’autres ? poursuit-elle.
      – Oui, mais c’était absolument normal, dans ces circonstances (NDLR : circonstances relatées par « Film Comment » en 1978). Tout cela me fait rire. C’était une partie de mon enfance.
      Quatre lignes ! Mais elles révèlent chez l’acteur une dangereuse candeur et, surtout, une méconnaissance complète de l’opinion publique américaine, dominée par les organisations et autres clubs féminins !
      Voici le « contexte » tel qu’il ressort de l’interview de 1978 : l’enfance de jeune loubard vécue par Gérard, dans la rue – théâtre quotidien de sa vie d’enfant de famille nombreuse pauvre – à Châteauroux, sa ville natale. – J’étais toujours le plus jeune, celui à qui on devait montrer les choses, raconte-t-il au reporter d’alors.
      Pas vraiment un ange, grand et fort, Gérard fréquentait dès l’âge de 9 ans des copains plus âgés que lui, notamment un certain Jackie qui l’a emmené un jour dans un dépôt de bus.
      C’est lui qui m’a fait participer à mon premier viol, dit-il. C’était normal. Après cela, il y eut plein d’autres viols, trop pour les compter. Il n’y avait rien de mal à cela. Les filles voulaient être violées ; je veux dire, il n’y a jamais eu véritablement de viol.
      Et d’expliquer : Il s’agit seulement d’une fille qui se met elle-même dans la situation dans laquelle elle veut être. La violence n’est pas commise par ceux qui passent à l’acte, mais par les victimes, celles qui permettent que cela arrive.

      –------
      Ici il y a des bouts de l’interview en anglais. Il y aurais un pbl de traduction entre « assister » et « participer »

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1991/03/27/depardieu-to-sue-over-rapist-stories/17520ee8-968c-4fb8-b910-7fa3c132cb70/?noredirect=on

    • Je suppose que tu postes ça à cause de l’actualité de #Gérard_Depardieu :

      Depardieu visé par une enquête pour « viols et agressions sexuelles »
      Valentine Arama, Le Figaro, le 31 août 2018
      http://www.lefigaro.fr/culture/2018/08/30/03004-20180830ARTFIG00268-gerard-depardieu-objet-d-une-enquete-preliminaire

      #grand_homme un jour, grand homme toujours ?

      Mais aussi #fraternité :

      Enquête pour « viols et agressions sexuelles » : Besnehard vole au secours de Depardieu
      Le Figaro, le 31 août 2018
      http://www.lefigaro.fr/cinema/2018/08/31/03002-20180831ARTFIG00106-enquete-pour-viols-et-agressions-sexuelles-besneh

    • U.S. Ambassador Dean Ambushed in Lebanon, Escapes Attack Unhurt - The Washington Post
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1980/08/28/us-ambassador-dean-ambushed-in-lebanon-escapes-attack-unhurt/218130c3-6d7e-438f-8b0c-a42fc0e5eb57

      1980

      U.S. Ambassador John Gunther Dean escaped unharmed tonight after gunmen in a speeding Mercedes attacked his bulletproof limousine as he was leaving his Hazmieh residence in a convoy.

      The ensuing battle between the ambasador’s bodyguards and the gunmen left the embassy car demolished on the passenger side, with window glass shattered and tires flat, embassy sources said.

      Later this evening, Dean appeared at the gate of the embassy and waved to bystanders but refused to make a statement on the incident. He showed no signs of injury. [The Associate Press, quoting security sources, said Dean’s wife Martine and daughter Catherine also were unharmed.]

      It was the first attempt on an American ambassador’s life in Lebanon since June 16, 1976, when ambassador Francis E. Eloy, economic counselor Robert O. Waring and their chauffeur were kidnaped and killed on their way from West Beirut to East Beirut during the civil war.

      [Several hours after the attack on Dean, gunmen with automatic rifles dragged the Spanish ambassador and his wife from their car and drove away in the embasy vehicle. Ambassador Luis Jordana Pozas told the Associated Press. Jordana said five men pushed them from the car in mostly Moslem West Beirut. There was no indication whether the theft of Jordana’s car was related to the attack on the American diplomat.]

      Today’s attack came just hours after Dean said the United States was working with Israel and the United Nations to end the violence among Christian militiamen and Palestinian guerrillas in southern Lebanon. It was his first public statement since Aug. 21, when he created an uproar by condemning an Israeli raid on Palestinian guerilla strongholds in the area. The U.S. State Department later disavowed the statement.

      There were conflicting reports about the kind of explosive that was aimed at the ambassador’s car. Some local radio stations said it was a rocket, while others said it was a rifle grenade. None of the reports could be confirmed.

      The shooting took place as Dean was driving to Beirut. Excited security guards outside the U.S. Embassy told reporters that a spurt of machine-gun fire followed the explosion.

      The attackers, who abandoned their car, fled into the woods on the side of the highway, Beirut’s official radio said.

      Lebanese Army troops and internal security forces were quickly moved to the ambush site and an all-night search was begun to track down the would-be killers. Reliable police sources said two Lebanese suspected of being linked to the assassination attermpt were taken in for questioning.

      Following a meeting with Lebanese Foreign Minister Fuad Butros today, Dean stressed that "American policy includes opposition to all acts of violence which ignore or violate the internationally recognized border between Lebanon and Israel.

    • The remarkable disappearing act of Israel’s car-bombing campaign in Lebanon or : What we (do not) talk about when we talk about ’terrorism’
      Rémi Brulin, MondoWeiss, le 7 mai 2018
      https://seenthis.net/messages/692409

      La remarquable occultation de la campagne israélienne d’attentats à la voiture piégée au Liban ou : Ce dont nous (ne) parlons (pas) quand nous parlons de terrorisme
      Rémi Brulin, MondoWeiss, le 7 mai 2018
      https://seenthis.net/messages/695020

    • Inside Intel / Assassination by proxy - Haaretz - Israel News | Haaretz.com
      https://www.haaretz.com/1.5060443

      Haaretz 2009,

      Did Israel try to kill the U.S. ambassador in Lebanon in the early 1980s?Haggai Hadas’ experience is not necessarily an advantage in the talks over Gilad Shalit’s release The Israeli intelligence community has committed quite a number of crimes against the United States during its 60-year lifetime. In the early 1950s it recruited agents from among Arab officers serving in Washington (with the help of military attache Chaim Herzog). In the 1960s it stole uranium through Rafi Eitan and the Scientific Liaison Bureau in what came to be known as the Apollo Affair, when uranium was smuggled to Israel from Dr. Zalman Shapira’s Nuclear Materials and Equipment Corporation - in Apollo, Pennsylvania). In the 1980s it operated spies (Jonathan Pollard and Ben-Ami Kadish), and used businessmen (such as Arnon Milchan) to steal secrets, technology and equipment for its nuclear program and other purposes.

      Now the Israeli government is being accused of attempted murder. John Gunther Dean, a former U.S. ambassador to Lebanon, claims in a memoir released last week that Israeli intelligence agents attempted to assassinate him. Dean was born in 1926 in Breslau, Germany (today Wroclaw, Poland), as John Gunther Dienstfertig. His father was a Jewish lawyer who described himself as a German citizen of the Jewish religion who is not a Zionist. The family immigrated to the U.S. before World War II. As an adult Dean joined the State Department and served as a diplomat in Vietnam, Afghanistan and India, among other states.

    • Remi Brulin on Twitter: "Shlomo Ilya was, in the early 1980s, the head of the IDF liaison unit in Lebanon. He is also (in)famous for declaring, at the time, that he only weapon against terrorism is terrorism, and that Israel had options for “speaking the language the terrorists understand.” https://t.co/TKx02n2SpA"
      https://mobile.twitter.com/RBrulin/status/1001904259410071552