Germans Clear Russia in MH-17 Case

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  • La version des services secrets allemands.

    German Intelligence Blames Pro Russian Separatists for #MH17 Downing - SPIEGEL ONLINE
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/german-intelligence-blames-pro-russian-separatists-for-mh17-downing-a-997972

    After completing a detailed analysis, Germany’s foreign intelligence service, the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), has concluded that pro-Russian rebels were responsible for the crash of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 on July 19 in eastern Ukraine while on route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.

    In an Oct. 8 presentation given to members of the parliamentary control committee, the Bundestag body responsible for monitoring the work of German intelligence, BND President Gerhard Schindler provided ample evidence to back up his case, including satellite images and diverse photo evidence. The BND has intelligence indicating that pro-Russian separatists captured a BUK air defense missile system at a Ukrainian military base and fired a missile on July 17 that exploded in direct proximity to the Malaysian aircraft, which had been carrying 298 people.

    • Crash du vol MH17 : Moscou appelle Berlin à publier ses informations | International | RIA Novosti
      http://fr.ria.ru/world/20141020/202766437.html

      L’Agence fédérale russe de transport aérien (Rossaviatsia) a invité les services de renseignements allemands à publier les informations démontrant l’implication des insurgés ou de l’armée ukrainienne dans la catastrophe du Boeing malaisien en Ukraine, a déclaré lundi le directeur de Rossaviatsia, Alexandre Neradko.
      « Personne ne connait les preuves fournies par le renseignement allemand. Dès le début, nous avons appelé toute personne connaissant des faits ou des circonstances objectives à communiquer cette information à la commission d’enquête néerlandaise. La partie russe l’a déjà fait. Nous avons présenté à la commission d’enquête tous les documents dont nous disposions », a indiqué M. Neradko dans une interview à la chaîne de télévision Rossiya 24.
      « Il ne s’agit pas d’adhérer facilement à l’hypothèse proposée par la République fédérale, mais de demander à ses services de renseignements de publier les informations secrètes montrant la culpabilité de telle ou telle partie », a souligné le directeur de Rossaviatsia.

    • Robert Parry, à propos des déclarations du BND, souligne que pour ce dernier, le missile et son lanceur ne provenaient pas de Russie. Reste donc à savoir quel ukrainien l’a tiré…

      Germans Clear Russia in MH-17 Case | Consortiumnews
      http://consortiumnews.com/2014/10/20/germans-clear-russia-in-mh-17-case

      But some U.S. intelligence analysts offered conflicting assessments. After Kerry’s TV round-robin, the Los Angeles Times reported on a U.S. intelligence briefing given to several mainstream U.S. news outlets. The story said, “U.S. intelligence agencies have so far been unable to determine the nationalities or identities of the crew that launched the missile. U.S. officials said it was possible the SA-11 [anti-aircraft missile] was launched by a defector from the Ukrainian military who was trained to use similar missile systems.

      A source who was briefed by U.S. intelligence analysts told me that some analysts had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appeared Ukrainian government forces were to blame, although possibly a unit operating outside the direct command of Ukraine’s top officials.

      The source specifically said the U.S. intelligence evidence did not implicate Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko or Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk but rather suggested an extremist element of the armed forces funded by one of Ukraine’s oligarchs.

      Regarding the alleged Russian role, the source said the U.S. analysts had found no evidence that the Russian government had given the rebels a BUK missile system, which would be capable of shooting down a commercial airliner at 33,000 feet, the altitude of MH-17.

      According to the Der Spiegel story, the BND reached the same conclusion, that Russia was not the source of the missile battery. But the BND and these U.S. analysts apparently differ on who they suspect fired the fateful missile.

      What has been curious about the handling of the MH-17 case is the failure of the Obama administration and other Western governments to present whatever evidence they have, whether satellite, electronic or telephonic so the investigation can proceed more quickly in determining who was responsible.

      By withholding this evidence for nearly three months, the West has benefited from keeping alive the anti-Russian propaganda – blaming Moscow and President Vladimir Putin for the tragedy – but the secrecy has given the perpetrators time to scatter and cover their tracks.

      With Der Spiegel’s report, it’s now clearer why the delay and the secrecy. If the missile responsible for bringing down MH-17 came from a Ukrainian military base – not from the Russian government – then a very potent anti-Putin propaganda theme would be neutralized. More attention also would focus on whether the missile battery was really under the control of a rebel unit, as the BND suggests – or was in the hands of anti-rebel extremists.