30/10/2019, #Ratib_Al_Mohamad (#Rateb_Almohamad)
mort noyé près de #Leskar / Rivière #Mreznica
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Ajouté à cette métaliste des morts à la frontière Slovénie-Croatie :
►https://seenthis.net/messages/811660
Elle-même ajouté à la métaliste des morts dans les Alpes :
►https://seenthis.net/messages/758646
Skriva li Mrežnica tijelo sirijskog migranta Rateba?
Policija za taj dan i događaj kojeg Sirijci navode, nema evidenciju
Mladi Sirijac Rateb Almohamad nestao je 30.listopada u 6 sati ujutro dok je s rođacima prelazio rijeku Mrežnicu na području iznad Generalskog Stola. Od tog dana gubi mu se svaki trag.
Tvrde to njegovi rođaci koji ga traže preko društvenih mreža i već desetak dana pokušavaju doznati bilo kakvu informaciju. No, oni koji bi po logici trebali imati informaciju, a to je policija – trag nemaju.
Ratebovi rođaci navode da je mladić tog jutra krenuo preko rijeke Mrežnice zajedno s dvojicom rođaka. Riječ je o klasičnoj grupi migranata koji su željeli iz Bosne do Slovenije preko Hrvatske. Prema njihovim tvrdnjama, dvojica su prešla Mrežnicu i došla na drugu stranu obale, dok je Rateba povukla voda te su vidjeli da se utapa i zove u pomoć. Nisu mu mogli više pomoći jer ih je, tako bar kažu, već pronašla hrvatska policija. Navode da su rekli da im se rođak utapa, no odgovora nije bilo.
Rateb je, tvrde rođaci, iz Sirije s obitelji izbjegao prije 6 godina, a obitelj mu otad živi u Turskoj. Kažu da je na put prema zapadnim zemljama krenuo prije mjesec dana. U prilog svojim tvrdnjama poslali su njegove fotografije, ali i “screenshot” zadnje lokacije na kojoj su prelazili rijeku Mrežnicu. Kako bilo, krenuli su u potragu za Ratebom vjerujući da je još uvijek negdje živ i da će dobiti informacije.
Inače, dvojica rođaka koji su bili s njim, sada su u Bosni.
Karlovačka policija, barem prema onom što smo doznali danas, dok još uvijek čekamo službeni odgovor na upit, uopće nema evidentirane događaje s migrantima tog dana, u to vrijeme i na tom mjestu. U prijevodu, nitko ništa nije tražio za spomenuti događaj, iako su tog dana, ali na drugoj rijeci, imali pronalazak petorice migranata iz Alžira te Iraka, ali i pronalazak utopljenika u Kupi, uz slovensku granicu.
Ukoliko Sirijci govore istinu, moguće je da tijelo nesretnog migranta još uvijek krije rijeka Mrežnica, nizvodno prema Zvečaju i Dugoj Resi. U ovom razdoblju dojava o pronalascima leševa u Mrežnici nije bilo.
►https://radio-mreznica.hr/skriva-li-mreznica-tijelo-sirijskog-migranta-rateba
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Traduction:
Young Syrian Rateb Almohamad disappeared on October 30 at 6 am as he was crossing the Mrežnica River with his relatives in the area above the General Table. From that day on, all trace of him is lost. This is claimed by his relatives who are looking for him on social networks and have been trying to find out any information for ten days. But those who logically should have information, and that is the police - have no clue. Rateb’s relatives state that the young man set off across the Mrežnica River that morning together with two relatives. This is a classic group of migrants who wanted to travel from Bosnia to Slovenia via Croatia. According to their claims, the two crossed the Mrežnica and came to the other side of the coast, while Rateba withdrew the water and they saw him drowning and calling for help. They couldn’t help him anymore because, so they say, the Croatian police had already found them. They say they said their cousin was drowning, but there was no answer. His relatives would be grateful for any information and ask for help According to relatives, Rateb fled Syria with his family 6 years ago, and his family has been living in Turkey ever since. He is said to have set out for Western countries a month ago. In support of their claims, they sent photos of him, but also a “screenshot” of the last location where they crossed the river Mrežnica. Either way, they set out in search of Rateb believing he was still somewhere alive and would get the information. By the way, the two relatives who were with him are now in Bosnia. The Karlovac police, at least according to what we learned today, while we are still waiting for an official answer to the inquiry, have no recorded events with migrants on that day, at that time and place. In translation, no one asked for anything for the mentioned event, although on that day, but on another river, they had the discovery of five migrants from Algeria and Iraq, but also the discovery of drowned in Kupa, along the Slovenian border. If the Syrians are telling the truth, it is possible that the body of the unfortunate migrant is still hidden by the Mrežnica River, downstream towards Zvečaj and Duga Resa. There were no reports of corpses in Mrežnica during this period.
►https://radio-mreznica.hr/skriva-li-mreznica-tijelo-sirijskog-migranta-rateba
Morts à la frontière #Croatie-#Slovénie
#frontière_sud-alpine #montagne #mourir_aux_frontières #asile #migrations #réfugiés #décès #morts #frontières #frontières
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Morire al confine
L’ennesima vittima al confine tra Croazia e Slovenia. Questa volta a perdere la vita è stata una bambina che insieme alla madre e ai fratelli cercava di raggiungere la Slovenia attraversando il fiume Dragogna. Negli ultimi 4 anni in Slovenia sono morti 23 migranti
►https://www.balcanicaucaso.org/aree/Slovenia/Morire-al-confine-214618
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Balkanski put smrti/The Balkan Way of Death
Since the closure of the refugee route in 2016, at least 259 migrants have died in the Balkans, and a large number of them have died in the countries of the former Yugoslavia, according to publicly available data collected by an international group of activists and researchers. The real death toll, however, is probably far higher
▻https://www.portalnovosti.com/balkanski-put-smrti
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Ajouté à cette métaliste :
►https://seenthis.net/messages/758646
Informations sur 3 migrants morts à la frontière croato-slovène collectées par l’OIM :
Migrant dies after van plunges into river in Croatia
▻https://seenthis.net/messages/811662
Rivière : #Kupa
Personnes blessées, parfois grièvement blessées, à la frontière entre la Croatie et la Slovénie...
16-17 novembre 2019 :
►https://seenthis.net/messages/811666
Localités mentionnées : #Rijeka, #Gorski_Kotar
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27-28 novembre 2019
Une personne grièvement blessée (en fin de vie selon la presse) par la police à la #frontière entre la #Croatie et la #Slovénie, novembre 2019 :
▻https://seenthis.net/messages/814567
Localités mentionnées : #Mrkopalj, #Primorje-Gorski_Kotar, #Rijeka
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v. aussi la liste des push-back avec armes à feu (août 2017-octobre 2019) :
Push-back reports from Croatia with gun violence
►https://seenthis.net/messages/814569
Carte des violences que les personnes en migration ont subies :
Tiré d’un rapport « on illegal practice of collective expulsion on Slovene-Croatian border » et qui mentionne la mort aux frontières :
The aforementioned police violence also contributes to the fact that people are hiding from the police in forests and are crossing dangerous river current, which lead to cases of death due to exhaustion, hypothermia and drowning.
►https://push-forward.org/sites/default/files/2019-05/Report%20on%20illegal%20practice%20of%20collective%20expulsion%20on%20
Dans cet article qui date de novembre #2019, on mentionne deux migrants décédés dans la #rivière_Kolpa :
Ces dernières semaines, deux migrants sont décédés par noyade dans la #Kolpa et un autre a été retrouvé mort de froid et d’épuisement dans la forêt.
Août 2019:
Migrant dies after van plunges into river in Croatia
#Slatina_Pokupska (selon les recherches de Sarah B.)
Avril 2019
Two Migrants Drown in River Kolpa (avril 2018)
Novembre 2019 :
Exhausted Syrian Migrant Dies in Slovenia
▻https://seenthis.net/messages/890035
Note : Pas de passage de la frontière, il vivait dans les bois depuis [plusieurs semaines/ 5 jours] pour se cacher de la police en attendant que son frère vienne le chercher en voiture depuis l’Allemagne
09.12.2021 :
Une petite fille de 10 ans meurt noyée dans la rivière #Dragonja à la frontière entre la Croatie et la Slovénie :
▻https://seenthis.net/messages/939972
04.12.2021
Bangladeshi migrant found dead near Slovenia-Croatia border
27.11.2018:
a young Algerian man reportedly drowned in the Reka river, in Ilirska Bistrica, Slovenia
▻https://seenthis.net/messages/944065
07.11.2019
Migrante di 20 anni morto di freddo a #Ilirska_Bistrica
▻https://seenthis.net/messages/950743
03.04.2022
Plusieurs étrangers ont été trouvés le long de la rive de la #Kupa près de #Vrbovsko. L’un était mort dans la rivière, l’autre est mort malgré la réanimation
▻https://seenthis.net/messages/956241
21.12.2000, news d’un exilé (d’origine iranienne) mort à la frontière croato-slovène :
03.06.2018: Iz Kupe izvučeno truplo muškarca, istražuje se je li stradali ilegalni migrant
29.04.2018 : “Another migrant appears to have drowned in #Kolpa”
10.11.2023: Na migrantskoj ruti: Reporteri Dnevnika Nove TV pronašli mrtvo tijelo pored Kupe
On the migrant route: Dnevnik Nova TV reporters found a dead body next to Kupa
10.11.2023 Un corps a été retiré de Kolpa, il était dans l’eau depuis une semaine ou deux
–-> date de mort environ 01.11.2023
▻https://seenthis.net/messages/1026661
#Griblje et #Krasinec
