• 10.11.2023 : Iz Kolpe potegnili truplo, v vodi je bilo že teden ali dva

    Un corps a été retiré de Kolpa, il était dans l’eau depuis une semaine ou deux
    –-> date de mort environ 01.11.2023

    Truplo so v sredo opazili sprehajalci in poklicali policijo.

    V sredo popoldne so gasilci PGD Črnomelj iz reke Kolpe med Gribljami in Krasincem potegnili moško truplo.

    V sporočilu za javnost so zapisali, da so truplo opazili sprehajalci in o tem obvestili policijo. Ogled so opravili kriminalisti novomeške policijske uprave. Znakov nasilja niso odkrili, zdravnica pa je ocenila, da je bilo v vodi verjetno že teden ali dva.

    O dogodku so obvestili dežurnega preiskovalnega sodnika, na okrožno državno tožilstvo pa bodo poslali poročilo. Kriminalisti in policisti nadaljujejo ugotavljanje identitete.

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    Google translate :

    Le corps a été repéré par des promeneurs mercredi et la police a été appelée.
    Mercredi après-midi, les pompiers du PGD Črnomelj ont retiré le corps d’un homme de la rivière Kolpa, entre #Griblje et #Krasinec .

    Dans le communiqué, ils ont écrit que le corps avait été repéré par des passants et en ont informé la police. L’inspection a été effectuée par des experts en criminalité du département de police de Novi Sad. Aucun signe de violence n’a été constaté, mais le médecin a estimé qu’il était probablement dans l’eau depuis une semaine ou deux.

    Le juge d’instruction en poste a été informé des faits et un rapport sera adressé au parquet. Les enquêteurs criminels et la police continuent d’établir l’identité.

    https://www.slovenskenovice.si/kronika/doma/iz-kolpe-potegnili-truplo-v-vodi-je-bilo-ze-teden-ali-dva
    #mourir_aux_frontières #frontières #morts_aux_frontières #Slovénie #Croatie #Kupa #Kolpa #frontière_sud-alpine #montagne #Alpes

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    ajouté à la métaliste sur les morts à la frontière entre la Croatie et la Slovénie :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811660

  • 10.11.2023 : Na migrantskoj ruti : Reporteri Dnevnika Nove TV pronašli mrtvo tijelo pored Kupe
    On the migrant route : Dnevnik Nova TV reporters found a dead body next to Kupa

    Općina #Netretić inače je dijelom migrantske rute kojom strani državljani iz Hrvatske prelaze u Sloveniju, a reporteri Nove TV su tijekom izvještavanja uočili mrtvo tijelo

    U koritu rijeke Kupe u Netretiću kod Karlovca danas je pronađeno mrtvo tijelo. Tijelo su pronašli upravo reporteri Nove TV koji su odmah pozvali i policiju koja je stigla nakon sat vremena i potvrdila pronalazak muškog tijela.

    Kako prenosi medij, općina Netretić inače je dijelom migrantske rute kojom strani državljani iz Hrvatske prelaze u Sloveniju. Općina se nalazi uz granicu, rijeku Kupu, zbog čega brojni stradavaju pokušavajući otići prema zapadnoj Europi. MUP je potvrdio kako je ove godine pronašao pet mrtno stradalih migranata, dok je ta brojka prošle godine iznosila čak 24.

    – Tu ispod livade, dolje ispod kuće, sam ih par puta vidio na cesti, ali ne napadaju i nemamo problema. Znaju vam ići da donji slap i onda imaju putić prema Sloveniji - ispričao je mještanin Igor.

    google translate :

    La municipalité de Netretić fait partie de la route des migrants par laquelle les citoyens étrangers de Croatie traversent la Slovénie et les reporters de Nova TV ont repéré un cadavre pendant leur reportage.

    Un cadavre a été retrouvé aujourd’hui dans le lit de la rivière Kupa à Netretić, près de Karlovac. Le corps a été retrouvé par les journalistes de Nova TV qui ont immédiatement appelé la police, qui est arrivée une heure plus tard et a confirmé la découverte du corps d’un homme.

    Comme l’ont rapporté les médias, la municipalité de Netretić fait partie de la route migratoire par laquelle les citoyens étrangers de Croatie traversent la Slovénie. La municipalité est située à côté de la frontière, la rivière Kupa, c’est pourquoi de nombreuses personnes meurent en essayant de se rendre en Europe occidentale. Le ministère de l’Intérieur a confirmé avoir trouvé cinq migrants morts cette année, alors que l’année dernière, ce nombre s’élevait à 24.

    – Là-bas, sous le pré, sous la maison, je les ai vus plusieurs fois sur la route, mais ils n’attaquent pas et nous n’avons aucun problème. Ils savent comment se rendre à la cascade inférieure et ensuite ils ont un petit chemin vers la Slovénie - a déclaré l’habitant local Igor.

    https://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/na-migrantskoj-ruti-reporteri-pronasli-mrtvo-tijelo-u-rijeci-kupi-kod-karlo

    #mourir_aux_frontières #frontières #morts_aux_frontières #Slovénie #Croatie #Kupa #Kolpa #frontière_sud-alpine #montagne #Alpes #Netretic

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    ajouté à la métaliste sur les morts à la frontière entre la Croatie et la Slovénie :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811660

  • 31.01.2018 : "Na Kupi se utopio migrant ?"

    Kada je riječ o nadzoru granice, hrvatska policija čuva i štiti državnu granicu neovisno o tome radi li se o granici koja se proteže kopnom ili rijekom

    Djelatnici PU karlovačke još provode istragu i utvrđuju identitet muškarca čije su beživotno tijelo u srijedu poslijepodne pronašli na Kupi u naselju Ladešići u općini Netretić.

    – Na tom području policija u srijedu nije postupala prema osobama vezano uz nezakonite prelaske državne granice. Kada je riječ o nadzoru granice, hrvatska policija čuva i štiti državnu granicu neovisno o tome radi li se o granici koja se proteže kopnom ili rijekom, a sve kako bismo spriječili nezakonite prelaske državne granice - kazali su u PU karlovačkoj. Ono što sigurno znaju, je da se muška osoba utopila, odnosno da do smrti nije dovelo neko kazneno djelo.

    Da je možda riječ o migrantu, kazali su nam mještani koji svjedoče o tome da se često na toj lokaciji, gdje Kupa dijelu Hrvatsku od Slovenije, mogu susresti nepoznate osobe, pretpostavljaju iz Afganistana, Sirije i drugih zemalja koje se pokušavaju domoći slovenske granice. Osim na toj lokaciji, mještani pokupskih naselja u općini Bosiljevo, ali i na ozaljskom području, po neoznačenim seoskim putevima, također često svjedoče o policijskim ophodnjama i hvatanju migranta koji prelaskom rijeke Kupe pokušavaju izići iz Hrvatske prema drugim zemljama EU-a.

    https://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/migrant-mrtvo-tijelo-rijeka-kupa-1223565

    #frontières #mourir_aux_frontières #asile #migrations #réfugiés #Croatie #Slovénie #Alpes #Kolpa

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    ajouté à la métaliste sur les morts à la frontière_sud-alpine :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811660

    • Utopljenik iz Kupe kod Ladešića je migrant

      U pokušaju prelaska rijeke Kupe izgubio je život

      Muškarac čiji je leš jučer pronađen u rijeci Kupi u mjestu Ladešići je migrant, doznaje Radio Mrežnica.

      Leš je pronađen u popodnevnim satima uz obalu rijeke Kupe s hrvatske strane. Riječ je o dijelu uz samu hrvatsko-slovensku granicu, a nesretnik je očito pokušao doći do Slovenije odnosno prijeći rijeku Kupu. Na to upućuju i nestali čamci s hrvatske strane obale, pa se pretpostavlja da stradali nije bio sam. Policija istražuje slučaj.

      https://radio-mreznica.hr/utopljenik-iz-kupe-kod-ladesica-migrant

  • 29.04.2018 : "Another migrant appears to have drowned in #Kolpa"

    Črnomelj, 30 April - Police apprehended a group of seven migrants in the south of the country after they entered Slovenia illegally from Croatia across the Kolpa river. Suspecting that there had been another person in the group who failed to swim over, police called in firefighters to inspect the river and they found a body.

    https://english.sta.si/2509414/another-migrant-appears-to-have-drowned-in-kolpa

    #frontières #mourir_aux_frontières #asile #migrations #réfugiés #Croatie #Slovénie #Alpes

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    ajouté à la métaliste sur les morts à la frontière entre la Croatie et la Slovénie :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811660

  • 03.06.2018: Iz Kupe izvučeno truplo muškarca, istražuje se je li stradali ilegalni migrant

    U Gornjem Prilišću, na granici sa Slovenijom, u nedjelju je iz Kupe izvučeno truplo nepoznatog muškarca, slijedi utvrđivanje identiteta i kriminalističko istraživanje, izvijestila je karlovačka policija, a na upit Hine potvrdila je da se radi o mlađem muškarcu te da se istražuje je li riječ o ilegalnom migrantu.

    U ime spašavatelja HGSS-a iz Karlovca Vlado Furač je rekao da su njihovi ronioci po nalogu policije izvadili iz Kupe tijelo mrtvog muškarca, te je ustvrdio „da javnost zna da je ovo mjesto na Kupi na migrantskoj ruti, da je tu prijašnjih mjeseci već bilo utapljanja stranaca, te bi moglo biti da je to opet jedan takav slučaj“.

    Policija je potom na upit Hine potvrdila da se istražuje i mogućnost da je stradala nepoznata muška osoba stranac, migrant, te da je Kupa u Prilišću državna granice sa Slovenijom, što znači da je, kako je rečeno, “muškarac pronađen na hrvatskoj strani linije razgraničenja sa Slovenijom”. (Hina)

    https://dnevnik.hr/vijesti/crna-kronika/iz-kupe-izvuceno-truplo-muskarca-istrazuje-se-je-li-stradali-ilegalni-migran
    #frontières #mourir_aux_frontières #asile #migrations #réfugiés #Croatie #Slovénie #Alpes

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    ajouté à la métaliste sur les morts à la frontière_sud-alpine:
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811660

    • ‘U bijegu su skakali u rijeku. Nitko nije izronio’: Potresna ispovijest migranta o tragediji kod D. Rese

      Salman, 23-godišnjak iz Pakistana, prijatelj je jednog od utopljenika, Mohsina Alija, dao je iskaz aktivisticama Inicijative Dobrodošli, a potvrdio je i u razgovoru za naš list ono što je ispričao o tragediji koja se dogodila 2. lipnja kada je skupina migranata pokušala domoći se Slovenije preko rijeke

      U subotu, 2. lipnja, u rijeci na granici sa Slovenijom utopilo se šest migranata, među njima i 22-godišnji Mohsin Ali iz Pakistana, posvjedočili su migranti koji su preživjeli tragediju.

      Naš list telefonom je razgovarao sa Salmanom, 23-godišnjakom iz Pakistana i prijateljem utopljenika Mohsina Alija, koji je trenutno izbjeglica u Velikoj Kladuši. Salman se 2. lipnja, zajedno sa skupinom prijatelja i drugova migranata iz Velike Kladuše, pokušao domoći Slovenije. Nije im uspjelo. Dogodila se tragedija, a preživjele je policija vratila u Veliku Kladušu, među njima i Salmana. Razgovarajući za naš list u subotu iz Velike Kladuše, Salman nam je potvrdio iskaz koji je 5. srpnja dao aktivisticama Inicijative Dobrodošli, koja u Hrvatskoj pomaže izbjeglicama.

      Salmanov iskaz

      Ovo je Salmanov iskaz tim aktivisticama, koje čuvaju audio snimku njegovog svjedočanstva: »2. lipnja, skupina ljudi pokušala je prijeći granicu iz Hrvatske u Sloveniju. Policija nas je vidjela i pucala. Pokušavajući pobjeći, ljudi su počeli skakati u rijeku. Mnogi nisu znali plivati, i nisu mogli procijeniti dubinu rijeke. Nitko nije izronio. Jedan čovjek počeo je plakati i moliti policajce da im pomognu, jer se ljudi utapaju. Ali policija nije reagirala. Tog dana, Mohsin Ali i još pet-šest ljudi izgubili su živote u toj rijeci. Slovenska policija kasnije nam je pokazala fotografije mrtvih tijela. Prepoznao sam Mohsina Alija. Rekli su nam da je njegovo tijelo u Zagrebu. Dan kasnije, poslan sam natrag u Bosnu. U kontaktu smo s majkom Mohsina Alija. Ona želi da se njegovo tijelo vrati u Pakistan«.

      Salman je u subotnjem razgovoru za naš list potvrdio da je taj razgovor autentičan, a podaci istiniti. Dodao je kako nerado razgovara za novine, »jer mu to nikad ne koristi«. Odbio je kazati i svoje prezime, a nije kazao ni ime majke Mohsina Alija, kao ni grad u kojem je Mohsin živio u Pakistanu. Salman, međutim, jest potvrdio da majka zna za pogibiju sina, te da tijelo želi vratiti kući, kako bi ga dostojno ispratila.

      Naš list u subotu je razgovarao i s jednom od četiri aktivistice Inicijative Dobrodošli, koje su u Velikoj Kladuši snimile Salmanov iskaz. Ta žena, čije ime i kontakte posjeduje naša redakcija, kazala nam je kako je u grupi iz koje su se migranti utopili, uz Salmana, bio i bratić utopljenika Mohsina Alija. On je preživio. Prema nekim informacijama, ostalih petoro utopljenika bili su iz Sirije i Maroka, ali o tim ljudima nema dodatnih informacija. Svi su se utopili na istome mjestu, kod Duge Rese, i u istome događaju, koji je Salman opisao aktivisticama, ali ime rijeke ti ljudi nisu znali.

      Prema informacijama iz krugova aktivista koji nastoje pratiti teškoće izbjeglica što Bosne i Hercegovine pokušavaju, preko Hrvatske, prijeći dalje u zapadnu Europu, opasnost od utapanja izbjeglica postala je tako akutna, da neplivači koji iz Bihaća i Velike Kladuše kreću na neizvjestan put, sa sobom sve češće nose konopce, kako bi se vezali kada prelaze rijeke, da se ne utope.

      Potvrda vijesti

      Kao dodatna potvrda vijesti da su se 2. lipnja migranti uistinu utopili može poslužiti i vijest Hine, koja je dan kasnije, u nedjelju, 3. lipnja, prenijela priopćenje karlovačke policije kako je »u Gornjem Prilišću, na granici sa Slovenijom, u nedjelju iz Kupe izvučeno truplo nepoznatog muškarca, mlađeg migranta«. Hina je u tom izvještaju citirala Vladu Furača iz karlovačke podružnice Hrvatske gorske službe spašavanja (HGSS), koji je potvrdio da su njihovi ronioci po nalogu policije izvukli tijelo iz Kupe. Furač je dodao kako »javnost zna da je ovo mjesto na Kupi na migrantskoj ruti, da je tu prijašnjih mjeseci već bilo utapanja stranaca, te bi moglo biti da je to opet jedan takav slučaj«. Policija je u istome izvještaju potvrdila da je »muškarac pronađen na hrvatskoj strani linije razgraničenja sa Slovenijom«.

      Odgovarajući na upit našeg lista, Odjela za odnose s javnošću MUP-a 2. srpnja izvijestio je kako je od početka 2017. do lipnja ove godine, u pokušajima da prijeđu granicu, u Hrvatskoj poginulo ukupno 12 migranata. Nevladine organizacije, pak, barataju podatkom o šesnaest poginulih u istome razdoblju, te izražavaju bojazan da je poginulih i više. Kako bilo, može se zaključiti da se broj poginulih izbjeglica u Hrvatskoj u posljednjih godinu i pol popeo na najmanje osamnaest – uz nadu da nije i mnogo veći.

      https://www.novilist.hr/novosti/hrvatska/u-bijegu-su-skakali-u-rijeku-nitko-nije-izronio-potresna-ispovijest-migrant

  • 21.12.2000, news d’un exilé (d’origine iranienne) mort à la frontière croato-slovène :

    Ustrijeljen Iranac

    #frontières #mourir_aux_frontières #asile #migrations #réfugiés #Croatie #Slovénie #Alpes

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    ajouté à la métaliste sur les morts à la frontière_sud-alpine :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811660

    • Skriva li Mrežnica tijelo sirijskog migranta Rateba?

      Policija za taj dan i događaj kojeg Sirijci navode, nema evidenciju

      Mladi Sirijac Rateb Almohamad nestao je 30.listopada u 6 sati ujutro dok je s rođacima prelazio rijeku Mrežnicu na području iznad Generalskog Stola. Od tog dana gubi mu se svaki trag.

      Tvrde to njegovi rođaci koji ga traže preko društvenih mreža i već desetak dana pokušavaju doznati bilo kakvu informaciju. No, oni koji bi po logici trebali imati informaciju, a to je policija – trag nemaju.

      Ratebovi rođaci navode da je mladić tog jutra krenuo preko rijeke Mrežnice zajedno s dvojicom rođaka. Riječ je o klasičnoj grupi migranata koji su željeli iz Bosne do Slovenije preko Hrvatske. Prema njihovim tvrdnjama, dvojica su prešla Mrežnicu i došla na drugu stranu obale, dok je Rateba povukla voda te su vidjeli da se utapa i zove u pomoć. Nisu mu mogli više pomoći jer ih je, tako bar kažu, već pronašla hrvatska policija. Navode da su rekli da im se rođak utapa, no odgovora nije bilo.

      Rateb je, tvrde rođaci, iz Sirije s obitelji izbjegao prije 6 godina, a obitelj mu otad živi u Turskoj. Kažu da je na put prema zapadnim zemljama krenuo prije mjesec dana. U prilog svojim tvrdnjama poslali su njegove fotografije, ali i “screenshot” zadnje lokacije na kojoj su prelazili rijeku Mrežnicu. Kako bilo, krenuli su u potragu za Ratebom vjerujući da je još uvijek negdje živ i da će dobiti informacije.

      Inače, dvojica rođaka koji su bili s njim, sada su u Bosni.

      Karlovačka policija, barem prema onom što smo doznali danas, dok još uvijek čekamo službeni odgovor na upit, uopće nema evidentirane događaje s migrantima tog dana, u to vrijeme i na tom mjestu. U prijevodu, nitko ništa nije tražio za spomenuti događaj, iako su tog dana, ali na drugoj rijeci, imali pronalazak petorice migranata iz Alžira te Iraka, ali i pronalazak utopljenika u Kupi, uz slovensku granicu.

      Ukoliko Sirijci govore istinu, moguće je da tijelo nesretnog migranta još uvijek krije rijeka Mrežnica, nizvodno prema Zvečaju i Dugoj Resi. U ovom razdoblju dojava o pronalascima leševa u Mrežnici nije bilo.

      https://radio-mreznica.hr/skriva-li-mreznica-tijelo-sirijskog-migranta-rateba

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      Traduction:

      Young Syrian Rateb Almohamad disappeared on October 30 at 6 am as he was crossing the Mrežnica River with his relatives in the area above the General Table. From that day on, all trace of him is lost. This is claimed by his relatives who are looking for him on social networks and have been trying to find out any information for ten days. But those who logically should have information, and that is the police - have no clue. Rateb’s relatives state that the young man set off across the Mrežnica River that morning together with two relatives. This is a classic group of migrants who wanted to travel from Bosnia to Slovenia via Croatia. According to their claims, the two crossed the Mrežnica and came to the other side of the coast, while Rateba withdrew the water and they saw him drowning and calling for help. They couldn’t help him anymore because, so they say, the Croatian police had already found them. They say they said their cousin was drowning, but there was no answer. His relatives would be grateful for any information and ask for help According to relatives, Rateb fled Syria with his family 6 years ago, and his family has been living in Turkey ever since. He is said to have set out for Western countries a month ago. In support of their claims, they sent photos of him, but also a “screenshot” of the last location where they crossed the river Mrežnica. Either way, they set out in search of Rateb believing he was still somewhere alive and would get the information. By the way, the two relatives who were with him are now in Bosnia. The Karlovac police, at least according to what we learned today, while we are still waiting for an official answer to the inquiry, have no recorded events with migrants on that day, at that time and place. In translation, no one asked for anything for the mentioned event, although on that day, but on another river, they had the discovery of five migrants from Algeria and Iraq, but also the discovery of drowned in Kupa, along the Slovenian border. If the Syrians are telling the truth, it is possible that the body of the unfortunate migrant is still hidden by the Mrežnica River, downstream towards Zvečaj and Duga Resa. There were no reports of corpses in Mrežnica during this period.

      https://radio-mreznica.hr/skriva-li-mreznica-tijelo-sirijskog-migranta-rateba

  • fin mars 2022 : Cure detalji o tragediji na Kupi : ’Ušli smo u vodu, krenuli s pretragom i na jednom dijelu našli utopljenika’

    Traduction en ligne :
    –-> Cure détails sur la tragédie sur le Kupa : « Nous sommes allés dans l’eau, avons fait une recherche et avons trouvé un homme noyé dans une partie »

    La police croate, après un rapport de collègues slovènes, a arrêté un groupe de migrants en provenance du Congo. L’un est mort, malgré la réanimation, et un autre noyé a été retrouvé à Kupa

    La nuit dernière, la police slovène a informé ses collègues croates qu’un groupe plus important de migrants se trouvait à Kupa. Des policiers de Vrbovsko, des forces spéciales de Rijeka et avec eux des pompiers se rendent sur le terrain car le terrain est inaccessible. Après trois kilomètres de marche, ils trouvent cinq hommes figés qui disent que le sixième est proche.

    « La personne était inconsciente, alors ils l’ont aidé professionnellement, mais ils ont essayé de la réanimer, mais la personne est décédée. Lorsque l’ambulance est arrivée, ils ont constaté le décès de cette personne. le poste de police de Vrbovsko », a déclaré Tomislav Horvat , chef du service des migrations illégales de la police de Primorje-Gorski Kotar.

    La nuit était froide, la température de l’air moins 1 et le Kupa sauvage 7 degrés. 22 pompiers de cinq brigades de pompiers volontaires se sont rendus sur les lieux. Ils disent n’avoir jamais vu des gens aussi épuisés et hypothermiques. Bien qu’ils aient été noyés par des couvertures, ils tremblaient constamment sur des brancards. Et le tout premier qu’ils ont trouvé leur a annoncé une autre terrible nouvelle.

    "Des collègues ont dit d’où il venait, c’est-à-dire du Congo, donc il a aussi dit que son frère s’était noyé, c’est-à-dire qu’il avait disparu dans la Kupa", a déclaré Dalibor Mareković , commandant du DVD de Vrbovsko.

    Il va à la police et le GSS a commencé hier à rechercher son frère autour de Severin na Kupi.

    "C’est là que nous sommes allés dans l’eau et avons commencé à fouiller le terrain pour trouver le corps d’un noyé dont nous avons pris soin et transporté par l’eau. Ces villages sont abandonnés depuis longtemps, ce sont déjà des ruines, donc le terrain est totalement inaccessible, la jungle .", a déclaré Goran Tomac , chef de la station HGSS Delnice.

    Dans de rares endroits, vous pouvez vous approcher de la rivière, qui a gonflé de pluie et de neige jusqu’à 4 mètres la nuit du drame.

    "Avec un dériveur et une chienne, c’est un kayak debout, nous sommes partis tous les quatre et nous avons descendu un ou deux kilomètres jusqu’à lui", a expliqué Bruno Stipancic , membre de la station HGSS de Delnice.

    Cette fois, Kupa a coûté la vie à deux migrants.

    Il y a huit jours à peu près au même endroit un autre, un Camerounais qui a déjà été enterré.

    "En tant que ville, nous avons fourni certains fonds et nous avons une tombe commune pour toutes ces personnes et nous les enterrons jusqu’à ce que les proches se manifestent", a déclaré Drazen Muftić, le maire de Vrbovsko.

    Pour eux deux, c’était la fin du chemin vers une vie meilleure. Les cinq détenus d’ici la fin de la journée devraient être transférés dans un centre d’accueil à Zagreb. Ils auraient admis qu’ils étaient au moins 11 dans le groupe et qu’ils avaient tenté de traverser la Coupe avec un radeau improvisé, mais personne ne sait où se trouve maintenant le reste du groupe.

    https://www.rtl.hr/vijesti-hr/novosti/crna-kronika/4221832/cure-detalji-o-tragediji-na-kupi-usli-smo-u-vodu-krenuli-s-pretragom-i-na-jednom

    #Croatie #Slovénie #asile #migrations #réfugiés #frontière_sud-alpine #Alpes #montagne #décès #mort
    #Kolpa #Kupa

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  • 03.04.2022

    Plusieurs étrangers ont été trouvés le long de la rive de la Kupa près de Vrbovsko. L’un était mort dans la rivière, l’autre est mort malgré la réanimation

    This week, another man lost his life (https://www.novilist.hr/novosti/crna-kronika/vise-stranaca-pronadeno-uz-obalu-kupe-kod-vrbovskog-jedan-je-bio-mrtav-u-rijeci-drugi-preminuo-unatoc-reanimaciji/?meta_refresh=true), killed by unjust European policies. According to the report from the Slovenian police, people have been found in the area along the #Kupa River in the wider #Vrbovsko area. There, they found five people inaccessible terrain along the banks of the #Kupa_River, and after a short time, another man who was unconscious and hypothermic. He was assisted and the officers attempted to save him, but despite an attempt at resuscitation, the man died.

    #Croatie #Slovénie #asile #migrations #réfugiés #frontière_sud-alpine #Alpes #montagne #décès #mort
    #Kolpa

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    • –-> du coup, cet article mentionne deux morts (et non pas un) le 3 avril 2022

      La police croate, après un rapport de collègues slovènes, a arrêté un groupe de migrants en provenance du Congo. L’un est mort, malgré la réanimation, et un autre noyé a été retrouvé à Kupa

      La nuit dernière, la police slovène a informé ses collègues croates qu’un groupe plus important de migrants se trouvait à Kupa. Des policiers de Vrbovsko, des forces spéciales de Rijeka et avec eux des pompiers se rendent sur le terrain car le terrain est inaccessible. Après trois kilomètres de marche, ils trouvent cinq hommes figés qui disent que le sixième est proche.

      « La personne était inconsciente, alors ils l’ont aidé professionnellement, mais ils ont essayé de la réanimer, mais la personne est décédée. Lorsque l’ambulance est arrivée, ils ont constaté le décès de cette personne. le poste de police de Vrbovsko », a déclaré Tomislav Horvat , chef du service des migrations illégales de la police de Primorje-Gorski Kotar.

      La nuit était froide, la température de l’air moins 1 et le Kupa sauvage 7 degrés. 22 pompiers de cinq brigades de pompiers volontaires se sont rendus sur les lieux. Ils disent n’avoir jamais vu des gens aussi épuisés et hypothermiques. Bien qu’ils aient été noyés par des couvertures, ils tremblaient constamment sur des brancards. Et le tout premier qu’ils ont trouvé leur a annoncé une autre terrible nouvelle.

      "Des collègues ont dit d’où il venait, c’est-à-dire du Congo, donc il a aussi dit que son frère s’était noyé, c’est-à-dire qu’il avait disparu dans la Kupa", a déclaré Dalibor Mareković , commandant du DVD de Vrbovsko.

      Il va à la police et le GSS a commencé hier à rechercher son frère autour de Severin na Kupi.

      "C’est là que nous sommes allés dans l’eau et avons commencé à fouiller le terrain pour trouver le corps d’un noyé dont nous avons pris soin et transporté par l’eau. Ces villages sont abandonnés depuis longtemps, ce sont déjà des ruines, donc le terrain est totalement inaccessible, la jungle .", a déclaré Goran Tomac , chef de la station HGSS Delnice.

      Dans de rares endroits, vous pouvez vous approcher de la rivière, qui a gonflé de pluie et de neige jusqu’à 4 mètres la nuit du drame.

      "Avec un dériveur et une chienne, c’est un kayak debout, nous sommes partis tous les quatre et nous avons descendu un ou deux kilomètres jusqu’à lui", a expliqué Bruno Stipancic , membre de la station HGSS de Delnice.

      –-> puis l’article parle d’un autre mort (fin mars 2022) :
      https://seenthis.net/messages/957547

      https://www.rtl.hr/vijesti-hr/novosti/crna-kronika/4221832/cure-detalji-o-tragediji-na-kupi-usli-smo-u-vodu-krenuli-s-pretragom-i-na-jednom

  • News found in the FB group « Dead and missing in the Balkans », 25.03.2019

    I have very small information about one person who drowned in the Kolpa river on the border croatia / slovenia.
    the coordinates are 45.485706,14.911013. Near Planica, Croatia.
    The person that travelled with him has been deported back to Kladusa on the 25th of march.
    His name was Mehdi, from Casablanca Morocco.
    He was 26 / 27 years old.

    cas cartographié ici :


    https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1loCgbvNrkMZHhyRPZdlifDaPlvkj50Ld&hl=en&ll=45.440627367377616%2C1

    #Croatie #Slovénie #asile #migrations #réfugiés #frontière_sud-alpine #Alpes #montagne #décès #mort

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  • 07.11.2019
    Migrante di 20 anni morto di freddo a #Ilirska_Bistrica

    A riportare la notizia è il giornale sloveno Večer. L’uomo, un ragazzo di origine siriana, è morto per il freddo. Sarebbe stato trovato nei boschi intorno al #monte_Nevoso. Vani i tentativi di rianimarlo da parte di un medico che nel frattempo era giunto sul posto.

    Ieri mattina a Ilirska Bistrica un giovane di 20 anni di origini siriane è morto per ipotermia. A dare la notizia è il quotidiano sloveno Večer nella giornata di oggi 8 novembre. A trovarlo nei boschi nella zona del monte Nevoso sarebbero stati i parenti che vivono in Germania e che erano stati allertati proprio dallo stesso giovane in gravi condizioni fisiche, impossibilitato a proseguire.

    Sul posto un medico

    I parenti si sarebbero quindi messi in viaggio a bordo di una Renault scenic con targa tedesca e con alla guida una cittadina greca, per tentare di trovarlo. Dopo averlo individuato, l’avrebbero caricato sulla macchina dirigendosi verso la stazione di Polizia di Ilirska Bistrica. Qui hanno chiesto aiuto e un medico del centro sanitario della località si è recato sul posto. Non c’è stato nulla da fare per il giovane siriano che, in un primo momento e sempre come riporta il quotidiano sloveno, sarebbe stato rianimato.

    Infine, sarebbe stato lo stesso medico ad ordinare l’autopsia che ha indicato l’ipotermia come causa del decesso.

    https://www.triesteprima.it/cronaca/rotta--balcanica-migranti-morto-ilirska-bistrica-.html

    #Croatie #Slovénie #asile #migrations #réfugiés #frontière_sud-alpine #Alpes #montagne #décès #mort

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    • Migrant umro od hladnoće pred policijskom postajom

      Mladi izbjeglica iz Sirije umro je od hladnoće i iscrpljenosti pred zgradom slovenske policije u Ilirskoj Bistrici, kamo su ga dovezla braća koja žive u Njemačkoj, a nije mu mogla pomoći ni liječnica koja je pokušavala s reanimacijom, objavila je u petak slovenska policija.

      Policija je objavila da se je u četvrtak ujutro pred zgradu policijske postaje u Ilirskoj Bistrici dovezao osobni automobil marke Renault Senic, njemačkih registarskih tablica. Za volanom je bila državljanka Grčke, a s njom još dvojica Sirijaca s reguliranim statusom u Njemačkoj te muškarac koji je pokazivao “minimalne znakove života”.

      Nakon što su stranci iz vozila upozorili na slabo stanje putnika odmah je pozvana pomoć iz obližnjeg doma zdravlja čija je liječnica na mjestu događaja mladog muškarca reanimirala, ali je on unatoč tome umro.
      Liječnica je odredila sanitarnu obdukciju. Utvrđeno je da je uzrok smrti podhlađenost i iscrpljenost, a policija je utvrdila da je umrli 20-godišnji državljanin Sirije, prenose slovenski mediji.

      Navodno je policija došla do podatka da je preminuli u Njemačku telefonom zvao svoju braću koja tamo imaju uređen status te im kazao da je dezorijentiran i na kraju snaga, da ne može nastaviti put i da zato dođu po njega - piše N1.

      Otkrili su da se nalazi u Sloveniji, u jednoj šumi blizu Ilirske Bistrice, gdje je ove godine inače pojačan tok ilegalnih migracija zbog blizine granice s Italijom.
      Pronašli su ga zahvaljujući koordinatama koje im je nastradali prije toga poslao, a čim su vidjeli u kakvom je stanju obratili su se policiji i zatražili pomoć, prenose priopćenje policije slovenski mediji.

      https://www.cazin.net/vijesti/migrant-umro-od-hladnoce#sthash.WTAvPdVA.QpCn69a9.dpbs

  • 27.11.2018
    Migrant drowns in Reka river

    Koper, 27 November - The #Ilirska_Bistrica police have apprehended a group of six illegal migrants on Tuesday morning, presumably coming from Algeria. One migrant reportedly drowned while crossing the Reka river (SW).

    https://english.sta.si/2579139/migrant-drowns-in-reka-river

    #Croatie #Slovénie #asile #migrations #réfugiés #frontière_sud-alpine #Alpes #montagne #décès #mort #Reka_river

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    • Beyond the Mediterranean, the MMP team recorded several deaths on land routes in Europe. On 27 November, the remains of four men were found on train tracks near the town of Fylakas, in north-eastern Greece. Local authorities reported that a night train ran over the group of migrants, who may have been sleeping on the lines. On the same day, a young Algerian man reportedly drowned in the Reka river, in Ilirska Bistrica, Slovenia. He was travelling with a group of six migrants, who were apprehended by authorities on 27 November.

      https://www.iom.int/news/mediterranean-migrant-arrivals-reach-107216-2018-deaths-reach-2123

    • V reki Reki se je utopil prebežnik

      Potapljači so ob 12.30 v reki Reki našli moško truplo, so sporočili s Policijske uprave Koper. Zdravnica ni ugotovila znakov nasilja, razlog za smrt je bila utopitev.

      Ilirskobistriški policisti so zjutraj pri Topolcu prijeli šest nezakonitih prebežnikov, sporočajo s PU-ja Koper. Po prvih podatkih gre za Alžirce, ki so policistom povedali, da sta dva iz skupine prečkala reko Reko, a eden izmed njiju ni prišel na drugi breg oziroma je ob prečkanju izginil pod površje.

      Nemudoma je stekla reševalna akcija, v kateri se je 15 policistom priključilo še šest gasilcev iz Ilirske Bistrice in pripadnika tamkajšnje civilne zaščite ter rafting kluba Mrzla voda. Pregledovali so breg reke, zatem pa še reko s čolnom. Takoj so aktivirali tudi potapljače.

      Ob 12.30 so potapljači v reki dejansko našli moško truplo. Zdravnica ni ugotovila znakov nasilja, razlog za smrt je bila utopitev.

      Policisti bodo v nadaljevanju ugotavljali okoliščine, opravili razgovore in identificirali utopljenega. Na policiji so izrekli pohvalo tako policistom kot tudi prostovoljcem, ki so se trudili rešiti moškega.
      Na temo migracij je sicer potekal posvet, poimenovan Stičišče znanja, ki ga je organizirala SID banka v sodelovanju z Akademijo Finance.
      Šefic : Potreben je družbeni dogovor
      Na posvetu je nekdanji državni sekretar na ministrstvu za notranje zadeve Boštjan Šefic dejal naslednje : « Migracije bodo tudi v prihodnje del našega življenja, zato bo pri soočanju z njimi potreben družbeni dogovor, sicer bomo ta problem še naprej reševali tako kot danes, ko povzročajo samo trenja. »

      Migracije Slovenije ne bodo zaobšle, aktualne bodo tudi v prihodnje, zato je po njegovem prepričanju izjemnega pomena, da se tako v Sloveniji kot EU-ju poglobimo v izzive, ki jih prinašajo. Predvsem pa bo potrebna strpna, argumentirana in na realnih podatkih temelječa razprava, je prepričan nekdanji državni sekretar, pristojen za migracije na vrhuncu migrantske krize leta 2015.

      Osnovna težava EU-ju pri spoprijemanju z migracijami je, da države ne izvajajo tega, kar so se dogovorile. Kot opozarja Šefic, bo treba vzpostaviti programe v izvornih državah migracij, pomagati državam tranzita in se zavedati, da nezakonite migracije niso rešitev za popolnjevanje vrzeli na področju trga delovne sile.

      Pri dolgoročnem naslavljanju tega vprašanja pa se bo treba lotiti odpravljanja vzrokov za migracije, je dejal na letnem posvetu Stičišče znanja.

      Slovenija ima dokumente in strategije, s katerimi se s fenomenom migracij lahko učinkovito spoprijema. Vendar pa težava nastane zaradi različnih razlag teh rešitev in pri tem se pojavljajo konflikti, je dejal in pozdravil odločitev vlade, da pripravi novo strategijo.

      Slovenija še vedno ni ciljna država prebežnikov, za mednarodno zaščito pa zaprosi minimalno število tistih, ki pridejo v državo, je poudaril Šefic. Glede vprašanja, ali je v kratkem računati na večji migrantski val, pa odgovarja, da se ta trenutek države zavedajo izzivov, ki jih prinašajo neregulirane migracije, kar je lahko zagotovilo, da podobnega eksodusa, kot smo mu bili priča leta 2015, ne bo. Pri tem pa je pomemben zlasti odnos med EU-jem in Turčijo, je opozoril.

      https://www.rtvslo.si/crna-kronika/v-reki-reki-se-je-utopil-prebeznik/473076
      #Topolc

    • Texte publié sur la page FB de No name kitchen : le nom de #Nasim apparaît sur ce post :

      There are three ways of reaching Europe without a visa, and for those people who are fleeing difficult situations in their countries of origin, the Balkan route is the least dangerous. That’s why many people from Morocco and Argelia are here. They decided to take this overland route instead of falling into the trap of dying at sea. They also have the option of flying safely to Turkey. However, this route is long and winding. It can last for more than one year.
      On its part, Europe has incorporated a stumbling block on the route: Slovenian and Croatian police, who undertake illegal deportations of any undocumented person found in their country. Some days ago, Nasim, who had chosen this route, found his death in a river, located only a few kilometres from the border with Italy. Yesterday we talked to his friends. As they were crossing one of the rivers on the route, they saw the police and decided to cross faster to escape. Nasim couldn’t swim and he drowned. His friends tried to save him without success. Ignoring this situation, authorities decided to deport illegally the rest of the group and take these young people to the Croatian police. His friends weren’t allowed to see Nasim’s body in the morgue. Moreover, it seems that Croatian police considered that the situation wasn’t traumatic enough and, when they took the migrants to the border with Bosnia, at night, they made these young people leave the car one by one, beating each of them. The boy bearing the brunt of this extreme situation was the one who hours before had been taken to hospital after collapsing due to the death of Nasim. One of the policemen, wearing – as all of them do - a ski-mask, took the boy’s head using both hands and hit his face with his knee.
      We normally avoid giving names on our posts, in respect of the privacy of the people we know thanks to our work. However, we think that Nasim - that boy always standing at the front of the queue for the shower- deserves to be remembered. He died at the early age of 25, as a direct result of the ridiculous European border policies, when he was pursuing his dream.

      https://www.facebook.com/NoNameKitchenBelgrade/posts/631323180599303

  • Bangladeshi migrant found dead near Slovenia-Croatia border (04.12.2021)

    The body of a migrant from Bangladesh has been found in Slovenia near the border with Croatia. Police say it is the first such death in this part of the border region.

    Police in the town of Koper, on Slovenia’s Adriatic coast, said that the dead body of a 31-year-old man was found on Saturday, December 4, in the Dragonja Valley, between the Dragonja and Sečovlje border crossings in southwest Slovenia.

    The man’s documents were found near his body. Police said that he was a Bangladeshi citizen and that the Embassy of Bangladesh had been informed.

    An autopsy was ordered to determine the cause of the man’s death, but initial information indicated that he died of hypothermia a day before he was found, a spokesperson from the Koper Police Department told InfoMigrants.

    While deaths of migrants have been recorded in the past on the Croatia-Slovenia border, this was the first known fatality in this region of the Dragonja valley, the spokesperson said.

    Border patrols

    Slovenian police, supported by the army, are deployed along the 670-km border with Croatia. Border surveillance of irregular migrants is conducted with the help of mounted police, dogs and technical equipment such as drones, thermographic cameras and helicopters.

    The interior ministry announced in 2020 that drones were increasingly being used to monitor the movements of migrants from above. “When migrants try to flee being apprehended, they run in several directions and drones make it easier for police officers to follow and apprehend them,” the ministry said in an article published online in June, 2020.

    Migrants usually “avoid populated areas and travel at night, using forest paths and remote terrain, while they spend the day resting in hidden-away locations,” the ministry continued.

    “Most of them use GPS navigation on smartphones in airplane mode, which prevents them being traced ... Illegal migrants very quickly adapt to police measures and frequently change both their routes and border crossing methods.”

    The police spokesperson in Koper confirmed that border patrols and surveillance have continued during the past 18 months.

    Both Croatia and Slovenia are members of the European Union, but Croatia is outside the Schengen visa-free area.

    There are thousands of migrants trapped in the Balkan states, unable to cross national borders to continue their journeys. Many are sleeping rough in cold winter weather.

    https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/37038/bangladeshi-migrant-found-dead-near-sloveniacroatia-border

    #Croatie #Slovénie #asile #migrations #réfugiés #frontière_sud-alpine #Alpes #montagne #décès #mort

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  • Une petite fille de 10 ans meurt noyée dans la rivière frontière entre la Croatie et la Slovénie

    Une petite fille turque de 10 ans est morte dans la #Dragonja, la #rivière qui sépare la Croatie de la Slovénie, à seulement 30 km de l’Italie. Elle était sur les épaules de sa mère, qui tentait de gagner l’autre rive, lorsqu’elle a été happée par le courant.

    Elle était recherchée depuis sa disparition, le 9 décembre dernier. Une petite fille turque de 10 ans est morte noyée dans la rivière Dragonja, frontière naturelle entre la Slovénie et la Croatie, dans le nord-ouest de l’Istrie. Le 11 décembre, son corps a été retrouvé sous l’eau, à deux mètres de profondeur, et à 400m du lieu de sa disparition, a précisé Suzana Sokač, une représentante de la police, au média slovène Dvevnik (https://www.dnevnik.si/1042978940/kronika/nadaljuje-se-iskanje-deklice-ki-jo-je-odnesla-dragonja).

    Une cinquantaine de personne au total - des policiers, des pompiers, des chiens de sauvetage, et des plongeurs de l’armée slovène - avaient entrepris des recherches le long de la rivière jusqu’à son embouchure dans la mer Adriatique, durant deux jours.

    La petite fille avait disparu, alors que sa famille tentait de traverser la rivière pour gagner la Slovénie, sur l’autre rive. Elle a été emportée par les eaux alors qu’elle se trouvait sur les épaules de sa mère.

    https://twitter.com/SuzanaLovec/status/1470044411518230533

    Cette dernière est quant à elle saine et sauve. Elle a réussi à s’accrocher à un arbre et n’a pas été emportée par le courant, « très fort à cet endroit », indique le journal italien L’Espresso (https://espresso.repubblica.it/attualita/2021/12/10/news/migranti_tragedia_confine_di_schengen-329668240). Cette femme de 47 ans a réussi à grimper sur une échelle tendue par un policier croate et un policier slovène, et à sortir de l’eau, selon un communiqué de la police. « Elle était à moitié consciente, comme si elle était prise de convulsions, a raconté un habitant. Elle a de la chance d’être en vie ».

    Les policiers ont également pu sauver ses trois autres enfants. Ses deux garçons de 18 et 5 ans avaient réussi à traverser la rivière et ont été interceptés côté slovène. Son troisième garçon, âgé de 13 ans, était encore sur la rive croate. C’est lui qui a donné l’alerte, en allant chercher de l’aide auprès d’un riverain. « Il ne connaissait pas un mot d’anglais. Il était mouillé et a juste crié : ‘Help ! Help !’ », a expliqué l’habitant.

    Une étape sur la route des Balkans

    D’après ce riverain, la zone autour de la rivière Dragonja est régulièrement fréquentée par les migrants. ’’Mais quand ils voient la lumière et les gens, ils s’éloignent", a-t-il déclaré, en ajoutant que ce n’était pas la première fois qu’il aidait des exilés en détresse.

    Selon L’Espresso, la zone, où des clôtures de fils barbelés ont été érigées par endroits, est désormais une étape pour de nombreux migrants afghans, pakistanais et bangladais, qui font chemin sur la route migratoire des Balkans. Traverser la Dragonja de la Croatie à la Slovénie leur permet d’entrer dans l’espace Schengen, et de se rapprocher de l’Italie. Une fois la frontière passée, la ville italienne de Trieste n’est plus qu’à 30 km.

    La semaine dernière, le corps d’un homme bangladais de 31 ans avait été retrouvé au même endroit, après avoir traversé le cours d’eau. Une autopsie a été ordonnée pour déterminer la cause du décès. Mais les premières constatations indiquent qu’il est mort d’hypothermie, un jour avant d’avoir été retrouvé, avait déclaré à InfoMigrants un porte-parole du département de police de Koper. Ce jour-là, les températures étaient négatives.

    Le 1er janvier 2020, un corps avait été retrouvé près de là, à Socerb, à la frontière slovène : celui d’un Algérien de 29 ans, décédé après une chute dans un précipice.

    Depuis quelques années, la frontière entre la Slovénie et la Croatie, longue de 670km, est très surveillée. La police y patrouille régulièrement, appuyée par des drones, des caméras thermiques et des hélicoptères. « Lorsque des migrants tentent de fuir, ils courent dans plusieurs directions et les drones permettent aux policiers de les suivre et de les appréhender plus facilement », avait déclaré le ministère de l’Intérieur slovène en juin 2020.

    D’après le porte-parole de la police de Koper, une ville slovène au bord de l’Adriatique, la surveillance des frontières et les opérations de contrôle se sont poursuivies au cours de ces 18 derniers mois.

    https://www.infomigrants.net/fr/post/37179/une-petite-fille-de-10-ans-meurt-noyee-dans-la-riviere-frontiere-entre

    #Croatie #Slovénie #asile #migrations #réfugiés #frontière_sud-alpine #Alpes #montagne #décès #mort

    –—

    Ajouté à cette métaliste des morts à la frontière Slovénie-Croatie :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811660

    Elle-même ajouté à la métaliste des morts dans les Alpes :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/758646

    • Desetletno turško deklico, ki jo je odnesla Dragonja, našli mrtvo

      V Dragonji so danes našli truplo desetletne turške deklice, ki jo je v sredo zvečer med prečkanjem reke z mamo odnesel močan tok. Truplo so našli dva metra pod vodo.

      Okoli pol ene ure so kakih 400 metrov stran od njenega izginotja danes našli truplo desetletne deklice, ki jo je med prečkanjem Dragonje v sredo odnesel močan tok reke, je potrdila Suzana Sokač, predstavnica policijske uprave Istrske. »Oseba je bila najdena približno dva metra pod vodo,« pa so smrt potrdili tudi v PU Koper.
      Na terenu 50 slovenskih policistov, gasilcev ...

      Desetletno deklico so na obeh straneh Dragonje iskali vse od srede zvečer, ko jo je z maminih ram odnesel močan tok Dragonje. Takrat jim je iz reke uspelo rešiti povsem izčrpano 47-letno Turkinjo, ki je deklico skušala spraviti s hrvaške na slovensko stran. Zraven je imela še dva druga otroka in nečaka. Ni ji uspelo. Deklico je odneslo, sama se je komaj še uspela držati za podrto deblo sredi reke. Močno podhlajeno so jo odpeljali v bolnišnico v Pulju.

      Deklico so tudi danes iskali tako na slovenski kot na hrvaški strani reke. Razmere so bile težke, reka je narasla. Policisti, poklicni in prostovoljni gasilci, vodniki reševalnih psov, pripadniki podvodne reševalne službe Slovenije in potapljači Slovenske vojske so bili na terenu od devetih zjutraj, so sporočili s PU Koper. Skupno jih je bilo okoli 50. »Prav tako policisti pomorske policije in URSP izvajajo pregled in iskanje ob izlivu reke Dragonje v morje,« so še dodali.
      Na Hrvaškem tudi s podvodnimi droni

      Iskalno akcijo je izvajalo tudi večje število reševalnih služb na Hrvaški strani reke Dragonje. Večjemu številu potapljačev so se na hrvaški strani danes pridružili člani antiteroristične enote Lučko, poročajo hrvaški mediji. »Reka je visoka, vse je odvisno od tega, v kakem stanju je deklica,« je za medije povedal Robert Boban Paulović, načelnik PP Buje. »Upamo, da se je uspela rešiti na kopno. Upamo, da bomo našli kakšno sled. Vse moči smo usmerili v to, da jo najdemo,« pa je dodal Marko Rakovac, član hrvaške gorske reševalne službe, ki je prav tako priskočila na pomoč. Na delu so tudi sledni psi. Dragonjo bodo prečesali tudi s pomočjo podvodnih dronov.
      Nesel jim je lestev

      Za hrvaške medije je o dramatičnih trenutkih v sredo zvečer spregovoril Jonatan Strojan iz Dramca, ki je poklical policijo in pomagal pri reševanju ženske iz vode. Povedal je, da je na njihova vrata potrkal 13-letni deček, ki je kričal le »help, help« , torej na pomoč. »Bil je premočen. Policija je prišla v roku desetih minut, sam sem šel pogledat, ali kdo potrebuje mojo pomoč. Potrebovali so vrv in lestev,« je razložil za Dnevnik Nova TV. »Ženska ni bila pri zavesti. Kot bi bila v nekem krču. Imela je srečo, da je bila še živa,« je dodal. Tudi sam je zabredel v reko. V tem času so pri njem doma poskrbeli za dečka, ki je prišel prosit za pomoč. Dali so mu nova oblačila, čevlje, hrano in pijačo. Jonatan pravi, da je migrantov tam naokrog veliko, a ker se izogibajo lučem in domačinov, ki kaj veliko ne vidi. »Sploh si ne morem predstavljati, kako grozno je to za otroke. Ne vedo, kaj bo z mamo, gledajo, kako ji iz rok v vodo pade njihova sestra … Grozljivo,« strne svoje občutke.

      https://www.dnevnik.si/1042978940/kronika/nadaljuje-se-iskanje-deklice-ki-jo-je-odnesla-dragonja

    • Ta smrt je na tvojih plečih, Evropa. Na tvojih plečih, Slovenija

      Desetletne deklice si spletajo kitke, božajo sosedove mačke, hihitajo se s prijateljicami in igrajo nogomet. V šoli imajo priljubljene predmete, učijo se tujih jezikov, pričkajo se s svojimi brati in sestrami. In ob decembrskih večerih težko zaspijo, ker razmišljajo o tem, ali bodo lahko budne dočakale novo leto.

      Danes so desetletno deklico mrtvo potegnili iz mrzle Dragonje. Dva metra pod vodo so potapljači našli njeno truplo. V reki, mimo katere se vsako leto skoraj vsi mi vozimo na svoje počitnice. Utopila se je v četrtek, ko je s svojo družino želela prečkati mejo, v želji po boljšem življenju.

      Umrla je na našem pragu, kot že toliko prebežnikov. Kot je na našem pragu, v dolini Dragonje, pred nekaj dnevi zmrznil 31-letni moški. In kot so v Kolpi umirali ljudje pred njima.
      suzana lovec

      Desetletne deklice si spletajo kitke in se izpod svojih toplih pernic ob koncih tedna zbujajo pozno. Desetletne deklice ne bi smele biti prestrašene, premražene in jokajoče, umirajoče v reki, utopljene v krutosti naše migracijske politike.

      Ta smrt je na tvojih plečih, Evropa, ki s svojo zastraševalno migracijsko politiko hočeš natanko to. Da ljudje, ki jih nimaš za svoje, ostanejo pred tvojimi vrati. Pa čeprav mrtvi.

      Ta smrt je na tvojih plečih, Slovenija, ki v tem že dolgo pridno sodeluješ. Na meje postavljaš rezilno žico, ki ji po “evropsko” rečeš tehnična ovira. V Centru za tujce razčlovečiš. Na terenu, če le lahko, preslišiš prošnje za azil. Izvajaš push-backe ; ljudi pošiljaš nazaj na Hrvaško in od tam v BiH, zavedajoč se, da jih tam čaka sistematično nasilje. In s tem kršiš lastno zakonodajo, ustavo, mednarodne konvencije, človekove pravice. In ko te na to opozarjajo, tisti redki humanitarci, nevladniki, pravniki, kulturniki in novinarji, ki še zmorejo opozarjati, gledaš stran. Opozarjajo te že leta in ti gledaš stran. V Evropo, ki vse to dopušča. Evropo, ki je zrasla na zaklinjanju, da je vsako življenje enako vredno.

      Desetletne deklice si spletajo kitke in ob sobotnih večerih gledajo risanke. Zdaj je tak večer.

      Nihče ne trdi, da so migracijske politike lahka stvar. Da vprašanja niso kompleksna in da ne terjajo kompleksnih odgovorov. Jih. A povsem jasno je, da je edini napačen odgovor na migracije – kršenje človekovih pravic. Natanko to, kar Evropa in Slovenija že dolgo počneta. Delamo natanko to, česar ne bi smeli. V ljudeh smo nehali videti ljudi.

      https://n1info.si/novice/slovenija/ta-smrt-je-na-tvojih-plecih-evropa-na-tvojih-plecih-slovenija

    • Morire al confine

      Giovedì scorso una quarantasettenne con i suoi quattro bambini ha cercato di guadare il fiume per entrare in Slovenia. Il figlio diciottenne e un altro bimbo di cinque anni sono riusciti ad arrivare sulla sponda slovena; la donna con sulle spalle la bambina è rimasta in mezzo al corso d’acqua, mentre l’altro figlio tredicenne anni è restato bloccato sul versante croato. Le acque, ingrossate dalle piogge dei giorni precedenti, hanno trascinato via la bimba, mentre la madre è rimasta aggrappata ad un tronco. È stato il figlio sulla sponda croata a dare l’allarme, bussando alla porta di una casa e urlando in inglese le uniche parole che conosceva: “help”, “help”. Il proprietario è andato immediatamente sul posto e poco dopo è arrivato anche un agente della polizia croata che si è buttato nel fiume, ma non è riuscito a far altro che a impedire che la piena portasse via anche la donna. A quel punto dall’altra parte del confine sono arrivati i poliziotti sloveni. Hanno usato il guinzaglio del cane per legare l’agente che si è tuffato in acqua e poi, con l’aiuto di una scala, messa tra le due sponde, hanno tratto in salvo la donna.

      I profughi sono stati immediatamente riconsegnati ai croati, che prima li hanno trasportati a Pola, dove sono stati ricoverati in ospedale (in Slovenia l’ospedale di Isola distava solo pochi chilometri) e poi li hanno trasferiti al centro profughi di Zagabria, dove hanno chiesto asilo politico. Ora la salma della bimba attende di venir portata in Turchia, dove verrà sepolta nel villaggio natale della famiglia.

      https://www.balcanicaucaso.org/aree/Slovenia/Morire-al-confine-214618

    • Tužan kraj potrage : U rijeci pronađeno tijelo djevojčice (10) koja je s obitelji prelazila rijeku

      Djevojčicu je, podsjetimo, odvukla jaka struja kada je s turskom državljankom pokušala prijeći rijeku i doći u Sloveniju. Policija je ženu uspjela spasiti. Riječ je o migrantima.

      Desetogodišnja djevojčica za kojom se od jučer tragalo nakon što je nestala u nabujaloj rijeci Dragonji pronađena je mrtva u subotu oko 12.30 sati, izvijestila je istarska policija. “Mrtvo tijelo djevojčice pronađeno je u vodi na mjestu koje je oko 400 metara nizvodno od mjesta nestanka, a pronašli su je djelatnici interventne postrojbe PU istarske”, izvijestila je glasnogovornica istarske policije Suzana Sokač koja je u ime policije izrazila sućut obitelji. Inače u pretrazi za djevojčicom tijekom jučerašnje dana i jutros sudjelovali su policijski službenici iz Buja, pripadnici interventne jedinice policije iz Pule, pripadnici specijalne policije iz Rijeke i ATJ Lučko sa svojim roniocima, HGSS sa psima tragačima, djelatnici Civilne zaštite državne intervencijske postrojbe Rijeka, djelatnici Crvenog križa obučeni za potrage na brzim vodama, vatrogasci i pripadnici lokalnih DVD-a te slovenski policajci i vatrogasci.

      https://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/i-dalje-se-traga-za-curicom-iz-turske-u-pomoc-stize-veci-broj-ronioca-15465

  • Modra rijeka

    Modra rijeka, Črnomelj, Slovenija, 25.3.2021

    https://vimeo.com/547961150


    Un #poème de #Mak_Dizdar :

    Where it is none knows
    We know little but it’s known

    Beyond forest beyond valley
    Beyond seven beyond eight

    Still worse still crazier
    Over weary over bitter

    Over blackthorn over bramble
    Over heat over strictness

    Over foreboding over doubts
    Beyond nine beyond ten

    Still deeper still stronger
    Beyond quiet beyond dark

    Where no cock crows
    Where no horn’s voice is heard

    Still worse still crazier
    Beyond mind beyond god

    There is a blue river
    It is wide it is deep

    A hundred years wide
    A thousand summers deep

    Don’t even dream of its length
    Insurmountable dark and murk

    There is a blue river

    There is a blue river—
    We must cross the river

    http://www.spiritofbosnia.org/volume-1-no-4-2006-october/blue-river

    #rivière_Kolpa #Kupa #frontière_sud-alpine #montagne #mourir_aux_frontières #asile #migrations #réfugiés #décès #morts #frontières #frontières
    #art #art_et_politique #poésie #vidéo

    –-

    ajouté au fil de discussion sur les migrants morts dans la rivière Kolpa (Kupa) à la frontière entre la #Croatie et la #Slovénie :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811660

    Lui-même ajouté à la métaliste sur les morts à la frontière sud-alpine :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/758646

  • Exhausted Syrian Migrant Dies in Slovenia (novembre 2019)

    Police in Slovenia reported that a 20-year-old refugee from Syria has died after family members rescued him from a forest in the south of the country.

    Police said Friday that the man died Thursday in the southern town of #Ilirska_Bistrica from hypothermia and exhaustion despite being given medical assistance.

    They said the man called cousins who live as refugees in Germany to come find him in the forest, gave the coordinates of his position and said he was unable to continue.

    After finding him, the cousins took the man to a nearby police station but doctors couldn’t help him, the STA news agency reported.

    The incident illustrates the dangers migrants face while trying to reach wealthy nations of the European Union.

    Meanwhile, Bosnian police also said on Friday they have stopped a van carrying 17 migrants and captured two suspected people smugglers near the border with Croatia.

    The migrants told the officers they were from Iraq and Syria and had no documents, according to police, the Associated Press reported.

    They were stopped Thursday near the southwestern town of Ljubuski.

    The van driver and another man, who was in a separate car, are now facing charges of people smuggling.

    Both men are Bosnian citizens and one also holds Croatian citizenship.

    https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/1982316/exhausted-syrian-migrant-dies-slovenia

    #frontière_sud-alpine #montagne #mourir_aux_frontières #asile #migrations #réfugiés #décès #morts #frontières #frontières

    Ajouté au fil de discussion sur les morts à la frontière #Slovénie-#Croatie :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811660

    Note : Pas de passage de la frontière, il vivait dans les bois depuis [plusieurs semaines/ 5 jours] pour se cacher de la police en attendant que son frère vienne le chercher en voiture depuis l’Allemagne

  • Two Migrants Drown in River Kolpa (avril 2018)

    Migrants are crossing the river where there is no fence, using boats stolen in Croatia or trying to swim or walk across the river.

    STA, 10 April 2018 - Local police have found bodies of two men believed to have tried to enter Slovenia from Croatia by swimming the Kolpa river.

    The Črnomelj police found one body on Monday afternoon near the village of #Vukovci in the southern region of Bela Krajina with the help of scuba divers.

    A few hours earlier, the police apprehended a 19-year-old Moroccan after he swam the Kolpa entering Slovenia illegally, Novo Mesto police said on Tuesday.

    The person told the police he had tried to cross the river with a friend, who however did not make it.

    An investigation is ongoing to establish the circumstances of the death.

    According to the police, another citizen of Morocco and two citizens of Algeria were apprehended in the area on the same day.

    This morning, three Algerian citizens were apprehended by the police. Due to suspicion that they travelled with one other person, the police inspected the Kolpa river and found the body of another man near the village of Žuniči. No signs of violence were found on the body.

    In February, Novo Mesto police said the number of migrants trying to enter Slovenia by crossing the Kolpa, which is secured with 89 kilometres of fence, had been rising over the past six months.

    While police recorded 46 such cases in the the first eight months of 2017, the figure for the period from September to February rose to 196.

    Migrants are crossing the river where there is no fence, using boats stolen in Croatia or trying to swim or walk across the river.

    The migrants largely come on foot from Velika Kladuša, the town in Bosnia closest to Slovenia, navigating the unknown terrain with their mobile phones.

    The majority ask for international protection.

    https://www.total-slovenia-news.com/news/1021-two-migrants-drown-in-river-kolpa

    #frontière_sud-alpine #montagne #mourir_aux_frontières #asile #migrations #réfugiés #décès #morts #frontières #frontières

    Ajouté au fil de discussion sur les morts à la frontière #Slovénie-#Croatie :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811660

    • Il s’agit là de deux cas différents, une personne noyée le 09/04/2018 et l’autre le 10/04/2018.
      Two Migrants Drown While Trying To Enter Slovenia

      Slovenian authorities said on Tuesday that two migrants died in separate attempts to enter Slovenia by crossing the Kolpa river marking the European Union’s Schengen border with Croatia.

      The body of one migrant was recovered on Monday in the southeastern region of Bela Krajina, police said. He and a 19-year-old from Morocco had tried to cross the Kolpa.

      The second case was reported on Tuesday morning when police found the body of an Algerian who had perished trying to cross the same fast-flowing river with three compatriots.

      Slovenian police say the number of illegal crossings along the border with Croatia doubled in the first quarter to 600 compared to the same period in 2017.

      https://www.channelstv.com/2018/04/10/two-migrants-drown-while-trying-to-enter-slovenia

  • Migrant dies after van plunges into river in Croatia 25.08.2019

    A migrant died in Croatia after a van carrying 12 of them plunged into a river and police in North Macedonia discovered 30 migrants in an abandoned truck, developments that come as the Balkans refugee route that peaked a few years ago again sees an increased number of illegal border crossings.

    The van crash happened near the Croatian border with Slovenia after the driver refused to stop at a checkpoint and was chased by a patrol. The driver, presumably a migrant smuggler, managed to get out of the sinking vehicle, fleeing into a nearby minefield. A search for him was ongoing, Croatian police said.

    Police pulled the migrants from the sinking van in the Kupa River by breaking its windows, but a woman later died at a hospital.

    Last week, Slovenia started erecting 40 kilometers (25 miles) of additional fences on its southern border with Croatia after a considerable increase in the number of migrants trying to illegally cross between the two European Union-member states.

    Slovenian police said in July a total of 1,740 migrant crossings were detected, while 7,415 were recorded in the first seven months of this year— about a 50 percent increase compared to the same period last year.

    Slovenia has already constructed about 180 kilometers (120 miles) of mostly barbed-wire fence with Croatia since 2015 when the Balkans route saw migrants fleeing wars and poverty in the Middle East, Asia and Africa, crossing the borders in the thousands a day.

    Police in North Macedonia said they spotted an abandoned truck Saturday afternoon near the town of Strumica, which borders with Greece, and discovered 30 migrants — 24 Pakistanis, three Iraqis, two Syrians and one Sudan national.

    The migrants are believed to have entered illegally from Greece and to have paid smugglers to take them north through Serbia toward Europe’s prosperous heartland. Police said they were taken to a camp near the southern town of Gevgelija pending deportation to Greece.

    Police said they detained a total of 10,017 migrants who entered the country illegally in the first half of the year.

    https://apnews.com/article/0ba8baa546914d2f83fce120820a63dc

    –-> Nouvelle datant de août 2019, que je mets ici pour archivage.
    Dans la légende la photo on parle du village de #Preloka, mais pas sûr que ça soit le lieu de décès de la dame.
    Selon les recherches de Sarah B, ça serait #Slatina_Pokupska

    #frontière_sud-alpine #montagne #mourir_aux_frontières #asile #migrations #réfugiés #décès #morts #frontières #frontières

    Ajouté au fil de discussion :
    Morts à la frontière #Croatie-#Slovénie
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811660

  • Une personne grièvement blessée par la police à la #frontière entre la #Croatie et la #Slovénie, 27-28 novembre 2019

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    Croatie : un policier ouvre encore le feu contre des réfugiés

    28 novembre - 22h : Mercredi en fin d’après-midi, un policier a ouvert le feu contre un groupe de réfugiés, près du village de #Mrkopalj, dans le comté de #Primorje-Gorski_Kotar, à 50 km à l’est de Rijeka, blessant l’un d’entre eux. La police affirme que l’homme aurait opposé une vive résistance à son arrestation et tenté de s’enfuir. Il y a onze jour, la police avait déjà ouvert le feu contre un autre groupe de réfugiés dans la même région, située sur la route reliant la région de Bihać, en Bosnie-Herzégovine, à la Croatie.

    https://www.courrierdesbalkans.fr/courrierdesbalkans-fr-fil-info-refugies-2019-novembre

    #frontière_sud-alpine #montagne #mourir_aux_frontières #asile #migrations #réfugiés #décès #morts #frontières #Croatie #Route_des_Balkans #Slovénie

    Cet accident survient seulement quelques 10 jours après l’autre personne blessée par #arme_à_feu sur la même frontière, 16-17.11.2019 :
    Migrante in fin di vita all’ospedale di Fiume, sarebbe stato raggiunto da colpi di pistola esplosi dalla polizia
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811666

    #armes #armes_à_feu

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    v. la liste des push-back à la frontière avec #armes_à_feu (août 2017-octobre 2019)
    https://seenthis.net/messages/814569

    –------

    Ajouté à cette liste des morts (même si la personne dont on parle ici n’est pas décédée) :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811660

    Et, indirectement, à la métaliste des migrant·es morts à la #frontière_sud-alpine :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/758646

    • We begin another week’s report with news of Croatian police shooting a man. Just eleven days after the case of an officer’s “accidental firing” and shooting of a man who is still recovering from serious injuries at the hospital in Rijeka, on Thursday another Croatian police officer shot a man in the area of #Mrkopalj (https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/policajac-upucao-migranta-kod-fuzina-iz-policije-kazu-da-je-kriv-migrant/2136049.aspx). The police version about the event is again unclear and blames the victim – it says that the person was “actively resisting and thereby caused the police officer’s firearm to fire". We wonder which version of the story the Croatian police will embrace this time - in the case of another “accidental firing”, the question is whether police officers are actually well trained in handling firearms, and in the case of a deliberate shooting, we expect a transparent and independent investigation into all of the circumstances of the event and the verification whether the police officer acted within his authority and in proportion to the use of necessary defence.

      Reçu via Inicijativa dobrodosli, mail du 04.11.2019.

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      Policajac upucao migranta kod Fužina. Iz policije kažu da je kriv - migrant

      POLICAJAC je jučer na području Mrkoplja upucao migranta. Iz policije su javili da je došlo do opaljenja jer je migrant pružao aktivan otpor. Migrant je lakše ranjen.

      Propucavanje se dogodilo jučer, a policija je o tome izvijestila danas navodeći da je migrant sam kriv za opaljenje pištolja.

      U riječkom KBC-u doznaje se da je ozlijeđeni muškarac zadobio prostrjelnu ranu desnog ramena te je sinoć operiran. Stanje mu je stabilno i izvan je životne opasnosti.

      Utvrđuju okolnosti ranjavanja migranta, a već su ih utvrdili?

      Njihovo priopćenje prenosimo u cijelosti.

      “Jučer, 27. studenog 2019. godine, u kasnim popodnevnim satima, na širem području Mrkoplja, policijski službenici PU primorsko-goranske, koji sukladno zaključcima sastanka predstavnika policije i lokalnih vlasti na navedenom području provode pojačane aktivnosti na suzbijanju nezakonitih migracija te prevenciji imovinskih delikata, zatekli su grupu nepoznatih osoba.

      Tijekom policijskog postupanja, jedna od zatečenih osoba, u namjeri da spriječi policijskog službenika u obavljanju službene radnje, pružala je aktivan otpor i na taj način svojim djelovanjem prouzrokovala opaljenje iz vatrenog oružja policijskog službenika, kojom prilikom je došlo do posljedičnog zadobivanja ozljeda.

      Osobi je odmah pružena hitna medicinska pomoć te je zbrinuta. Prema prvim neslužbenim informacijama radi se o lakšoj ozljedi”, stoji u priopćenju.

      Na kraju dodaju kako se utvrđuju sve okolnosti pod kojima se događaj odvio, a prema njihovom priopćenju se čini da su već utvrdili način na koji je migrant upucan.

      Zadnji ovakav slučaj dogodio se prije 11 dana na području Tuhobića, gdje je policajac iz puške propucao migranta i nanio mu ozljede opasne po život. Policija je i tada izvijestila da se radilo o slučajnom opaljenju oružja.

      https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/policajac-upucao-migranta-kod-fuzina-iz-policije-kazu-da-je-kriv-migrant/2136049.aspx

    • This week started with a tragic event happened in Croatia: a man has been shot by a Croatian police officer (https://www.cms.hr/hr/azil-i-integracijske-politike/povodom-ranjavanja-osobe-u-gorskom-kotaru-pucanj-u-ljudska-prava) - at the time writing, he is still in hospital and went through more than 4 surgeries, and he’s fighting for his life. One of the multiple versions elaborated by the Ministry of the interior is that “there has been no shooting, rather it was an accidental firing”. The version of the story changed several times, and up until now, the minister decided to stay silent “while the investigations are ongoing”. We would like to underline how we don’t have trust in a system that makes Thermo camera videos disappear, or in a system that doesn’t allow other institutions like the ombudswoman to access to information regarding border management. While the European Commission gives the green light for Croatia accession to Schengen, the police officers shoot to men in search of safety: is this the idea that the European Commission has of a good way of managing the external borders of EU? Border Violence Monitoring Network reminds us how this event is not an exception nor an accident: in their press briefing (https://www.borderviolence.eu/wp-content/uploads/Press-Briefing-19th-November-2019-1.pdf), the network underlines how the 19% of all recorded pushback cases from Croatia involved gun use, affecting 1279 people. In 2019, the pushbacks of 770 people from Croatia involved gun use. Of the 54 group cases: 31 cases gunshots were fired by police officers; in 33 cases guns were used to threaten respondents. In October 2019 alone, 17% of recorded pushback cases from Croatia involved the threatening with, or shooting of firearms by police. These firearms use targeted a total of 285 people. Across the Balkan Region, BVMN has recorded 107 incidents of gun used by police, including 63 cases where gunshots were fired by police officers; 63 cases where guns were used to threaten respondents. Here you can read the full report of the month of October: https://www.borderviolence.eu/balkan-region-report-october-2019

      Reçu via Inicijativa Dobrodosli, mail du 27.11.2019.

  • Une personne grièvement blessée par la police à la #frontière entre la #Croatie et la #Slovénie, 17 novembre 2019 :

    Un inmigrante, en estado crítico por los disparos de la Policía croata cerca de la frontera con Eslovenia

    Un inmigrante, en estado crítico por los disparos de la Policía croata cerca de la frontera con Eslovenia

    La Policía croata ha dejado herido en estado crítico a un inmigrante que intentaba cruzar con un grupo de compañeros la frontera hacia Eslovenia, según han confirmado fuentes oficiales de la localidad de #Rijeka, próxima a la zona montañosa de #Gorski_Kotar, a unos 20 kilómetros de la línea de separación, donde ha sucedido el incidente. El ministro del Interior croata, Davor Bozinovic, ha confirmado las intenciones del grupo pero no ha dado detalles sobre el número de integrantes ni sus ...

    Leer más: https://www.europapress.es/internacional/noticia-inmigrante-estado-critico-disparos-policia-croata-cerca-frontera

    https://www.europapress.es/internacional/noticia-inmigrante-estado-critico-disparos-policia-croata-cerca-frontera
    #montagne

    Ajouté à cette liste des morts (même si la personne dont on parle ici n’est pas décédée, mais les blessures sont apparemment très graves et la personne est « en fin de vie » selon les informations de presse) :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/811660

    Et, indirectement, à la métaliste des migrant·es morts à la #frontière_sud-alpine :
    https://seenthis.net/messages/758646

    #frontière_sud-alpine #montagne #mourir_aux_frontières #asile #migrations #réfugiés #décès #morts #frontières #Croatie #Route_des_Balkans #Slovénie

    • Migrante in fin di vita all’ospedale di Fiume, sarebbe stato raggiunto da colpi di pistola esplosi dalla polizia

      „A riportare la notizia è il quotidiano croato Dnevnik.hr che ha registrato il grave ferimento dell’uomo, di cui non si conoscono ancora le generalità, ieri pomeriggio nella zona del Gorski Kotar. La vicenda confermata anche dal ministro degli Interni di Zagabria, Davor Bozinovic“

      Nella zona del Gorski kotar, ieri 16 novembre la Polizia croata avrebbe sparato ad un migrante che sarebbe ricoverato in fin di vita, nell’ospedale di Fiume, a causa di una grave ferita al ventre. A riportare la notizia è il quotidiano croato Dnevnik.hr in questo articolo dove spiega come le forze dell’ordine croate avrebbero esploso colpi d’arma da fuoco (non viene riferito il numero) dopo il rintraccio di un gruppo di una quindicina di migranti nella zona del monte Tuhobic e, presumibilmente, provenienti dalla rotta balcanica.

      Al momento non si hanno notizie sulle generalità dell’uomo, né sulla sua età. Il Dnevnik riporta che l’uomo, assieme agli altri compagni di viaggio, si stava dirigendo verso il confine con la Slovenia, tentando di entrarvi illegalmente. La notizia del ferimento del migrante e il suo trasferimento all’ospedale del capoluogo quarnerino, è stata confermata, come riportato sempre dal media croato, anche dal ministro degli Interni di Zagabria Davor Bozinovic. Da quanto riportato dai media croati e sloveni, dovrebbe venir aperta un’inchiesta per far luce sul grave fatto di cronaca.

      http://www.triesteprima.it/cronaca/rotta-balcanica-croazia-slovenia-migrante-ferito.html

    • Croazia: la polizia spara sui migranti

      Uno è stato ridotto in fin di vita. Aperta una inchiesta per stabilire cosa sia successo durante il pattugliamento nel Gorski Kotar.

      Spari sui migranti in una zona impervia del Gorski Kotar, non lontano dal monte Tuhobić, ad alcuni chilometri di distanza dalla più vicina arteria stradale. Tutto è avvenuto ieri pomeriggio, quando la polizia croata ha aperto il fuoco contro un gruppo di sospetti clandestini, una quindicina, che avrebbero cercato di raggiungere la Slovenia. Uno di loro è stato raggiunto al torace ed è in gravissime condizioni. È stato operato d’urgenza nell’ospedale di Fiume.
      Il ministro dell’Interno croato, Davor Božinović ha spiegato che i poliziotti erano in servizio di pattugliamento per il controllo della frontiera: aperta un’inchiesta per stabilire le circostanze che hanno portato ad aprire il fuoco contro i migranti e se ciò sia stato giustificato dagli eventi. Alla domanda se anche i migranti fossero armati, il ministro ha detto che non c’è ancora una risposta. Tutti i componenti il gruppo di migranti sono stati fermati. Da diverso tempo le organizzazioni umanitarie e per i diritti umani imputano alla polizia croata un comportamento violento nei confronti di profughi e migranti che arrivano in Croazia dalla Bosnia ed Erzegovina, da pestaggi a respingimenti oltre confine in modo violento. Finora però non era mai giunta notizia di un impiego di armi da fuoco.

      https://capodistria.rtvslo.si/news/croazia/croazia-la-polizia-spara-sui-migranti/505185

    • Et l’article avec la nouvelle dans un journal croate :
      Doznajemo : Ranjavanju migranta prethodio je napad na policajce. Kamenjem ih gađala veća skupina migranata

      Ilegalni migrant koji je teško ozlijeđen u subotu kasno popodne u Gorskom kotaru još uvijek je životno ugrožen. Očevid radi utvrđivanja okolnosti tog incidenta još je u tijeku. Neslužbeno doznajemo da su ga policajci nakon ranjavanja nosili nekoliko kilometara, sve dok ga nije preuzela služba Hitne pomoći.

      Ministar unutarnjih poslova Davor Božinović kazao je da je dovršen očevid u slučaju ranjavanja migranta koji se u KBC-u Rijeka s prostrijelnom ranom u predjelu prsnog koša i trbuha bori za život, javlja N1.

      ’Odvjetništvo uz stručnu pomoć policije provodi kriminalističko istraživanje i u ovom trenutku rano je govoriti o rezultatima tog istraživanja. Eventualno bih u ovom trenutku mogao kazati da nije utvrđeno da je korištenje vatrenog oružja bilo usmjereno prema konkretnoj osobi, s namjerom djelovanja prema osobi", izjavio je ministar unutarnjih poslova Davor Božinović.

      Prema neslužbenim informacijama, nakon incidenta u kojem je teško ozlijeđen migrant policajci su ga s nepristupačnog terena nosili sve do vozila Hitne pomoći, kojim je nakon toga prebačen u KBC Rijeka.
      Napali policajce kamenjem?

      Neslužbeno doznajemo da je riječ o djelatniku specijalne policije koji je nedavno spasio migranta kojemu je prijetilo smrzavanje nakon što ga je njegova grupa neadekvatno odjevenog ostavila u šumama Gorskog kotara na niskim temperaturama.

      Također, neslužbeno se doznaje da je do ozljeđivanja stradalog migranta došlo nakon pucanja u zrak nakon što je veća grupa migranata vrlo blizu mjesta incidenta kamenjem i drugim priručnim sredstvima napala policajce. Policajac koji je upotrijebio vatreno oružje tada je nekoliko puta na hrvatskom i engleskom jeziku upozorio da je riječ o policiji te da je primoran koristiti oružje. Potom je ispalio dva metka u zrak iz oružja koje nije bilo usmjereno prema migrantima. Kad je krenuo prema njima, policajac se spotaknuo te pritom i ozlijedio, a u tom trenutku njegovo je oružje još jednom opalilo, no nije bilo usmjereno prema migrantima, već je moguće da se hitac odbio od tvrde površine te tako ozlijedio migranta, što će utvrditi istraga.
      Ranjen u prsni koš i trbuh

      Očevid je na mjestu događaja završio, no istraga je još uvijek u tijeku, a ranjeni muškarac i dalje je u životnoj opasnosti.

      ’’Bolesnik je u jedinicu intenzivnog liječenja zaprimljen po učinjenom hitnom operativnom zahvatu. Prilikom ranjavanja zadobio je višestruke ozlijede toraksa i abdomena koje su opasne po život. U bolesnika se i dalje provode mjere intenzivnog liječenja’’, kazala je anesteziologinja riječkog KBC-a dr. sc.Vlasta Orlić Kabrić.

      Višestruke ozljede, pretpostavlja se, nastale su od metka ili od odbijanja metka o tvrdu podlogu te potom ranjavanja. Zbog incidenta je sinoć u Rijeku stigao ministar unutarnjih poslova Davor Božinović. ’’Došlo je do ozljeđivanja vjerojatno zbog uporabe vatrenog oružja, po tome će postupati nadležno županijsko državno odvjetništvo’’, rekao je ministar i kazao da ne može govoriti o detaljima.
      Kiša otežava očevid

      Mjesto nesreće udaljeno je pet kilometara od posljednjeg šumskog puta kojim se može doći vozilom. Osim teško pristupačnog terena, očevid otežavaju i veoma loše vremenske prilike, odnosno vrlo gusta kiša koja pada u tom dijelu Gorskoga kotara.

      Stanovnici Gorskog kotara već neko vrijeme imaju problema s migrantima koji uspiju pobjeći policajcima na granici s Bosnom i Hercegovinom. ’’U početku su ljudi bili susretljivi. I sami su rekli da bi trebalo pomoći ljudima. Ali, eto, kako prolazi već nekoliko godina, pogotovo u zimskom periodu, postajali su nekako agresivniji’’, govori David Bregovac, načelnik općine Fužine.

      Je li skupina na koju je naišla policijska ophodnja bila naoružana, jesu li nasrnuli na policajce, zašto je policija koristila vatreno oružje, kako je grupa ilegalaca uspjela ući tako duboko u Hrvatsku – samo su neka od pitanja na koja bi istraga koja je u tijeku trebala dati odgovor.

      https://dnevnik.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/migrant-upucan-u-gorskom-kotaru-bori-se-za-zivot-ima-prostrijelnu-ranu-prsno

    • Croatian police fire on illegal migrants near Slovenian border

      Croatian police fired on a group of illegal migrants trying to reach neighboring Slovenia late on Saturday, leaving one man critically injured, officials in the northern Adriatic town of Rijeka said.

      Croatian Interior Minister Davor Bozinovic told reporters that the group was probably trying to cross into Slovenia, but did not say how many people were in the group or give their nationalities.

      Croatia is on a route taken by many migrants from the Middle East and central Asia trying to reach wealthier EU states. Some cross into Croatia from Bosnia undeclared.

      “Police officers were preventing the passage of a group which most probably wanted to reach Slovenia,” Bozinovic told media late on Saturday, adding that one man was wounded probably due to the use of firearms.

      A doctor at the Rijeka Clinical Hospital Centre said the man in a critical condition had suffered gunshot wounds.

      “The patient was admitted for urgent surgery after sustaining gunshot wounds in the area of thorax and stomach,” the doctor told Reuters by telephone on Sunday. “He is in a life-threatening condition and intensive medical treatment is continuing.”

      Bozinovic said regional authorities would investigate the incident, which took place in the mountainous Gorski Kotar area close to Rijeka, which is around 20 km (12 miles) from the Slovenian border.

      Croatia, which wants to join the EU’s border-free Schengen area, has to convince Brussels that it is able to effectively manage the bloc’s external border, a particularly sensitive issue since Europe’s 2015 migrant crisis.

      Neighboring Bosnia, which has become a migrant hot-spot since 2018, has repeatedly accused Croatia of returning migrants to Bosnia even when they are found deep in its territory. Many migrants have been complaining of brutality of Croatian police officers, allegations that Croatia has dismissed.

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-croatia/croatian-police-fire-on-illegal-migrants-near-slovenian-border-idUSKBN1XR0I

    • Croatian police shoot and seriously injure refugee

      The nationality of the injured migrant has not yet been reported. The incident occurred in a wooded area of the Gorski Kotar region, between Croatia and Slovenia, on one of the routes that many migrant and refugees stuck in Bosnia take to reach Western Europe. Croatian media say that a group of 17 migrants, after being sighted while illegally crossing the woods, allegedly refused to peacefully hand themselves over to the police and began to throw rocks and other objects at the security forces. According to the official version given by the police, one policeman tripped while shooting in the air and the bullet ricocheted and hit one of the migrants. The Croatian police immediately gave first aid to the injured man and took him on foot for three kilometres to the nearest ambulance. The migrant has been hospitalised and undergone two surgeries. He is still in critical condition. Human rights organisations have expressed serious doubts about the official version of the incident and say that weapons are being used ever more frequently against migrants and have called for the interior ministry to prevent similar incidents.

      http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/news/sections/generalnews/2019/11/18/croatian-police-shoot-and-seriously-injure-refugee_87deadaa-f86c-4c27-b7fb

    • Croatie : la police tire sur un groupe de migrants, un homme entre la vie et la mort

      Un homme a été touché par un tir de la police croate dans la nuit du samedi 16 au dimanche 17 novembre, dans la région montagneuse du Gorski Kotar. Selon un médecin de l’hôpital de Rijeka, ce dernier est aujourd’hui dans un état critique.

      Le ministre croate de l’Intérieur, Davor Božinović, a déclaré que l’homme « a été blessé » alors que « la police protégeait la frontière », essayant d’« empêcher un groupe de migrants [sans donner leur nombre ni leur nationalité] de passer en Slovénie ». Mais l’ONG Are You Syrious explique que ces tirs ont eu lieu « très à l’intérieur du territoire croate », loin de la frontière. La ville de Rijeka se situe effectivement à une vingtaine de kilomètres de la Slovénie.

      La Croatie, qui veut intégrer l’espace Schengen, doit convaincre Bruxelles qu’elle est capable de prendre en charge la frontière extérieure de l’UE, notamment depuis le début de la crise des migrants en 2015. « Ce n’est pas la première fois que la protection des frontières en Croatie a des conséquences fatales ou quasi-fatales », rappelle Are You Syrious. Le 21 novembre 2017, une Afghane de 6 ans est morte quelques minutes après une opération de refoulement illégale de la police croate à la frontière avec la Serbie. Le 30 mai 2018, deux réfugiés de 12 ans, un garçon et une fille, ont été atteints au visage par des tirs de cette même police.

      https://www.courrierdesbalkans.fr/courrierdesbalkans-fr-fil-info-refugies-2019-novembre

    • Croatian police fire on irregular migrants near Slovenian border

      Croatian police on Friday fired on a group of migrants trying to irregularly reach neighboring Slovenia, local officials said. One man was critically injured. Thousands of migrants trying to reach western Europe are stuck in the Balkans.

      A migrant is fighting for his life after being shot by police on Friday, doctors in the Croatian port of Rijeka said Sunday. The unidentified migrant reportedly suffered multiple bullet wounds to his chest.

      “The patient was admitted for urgent surgery after sustaining gunshot wounds in the area of thorax and stomach,” a doctor at the Rijeka Clinical Hospital Center told news agency Reuters. “He is in a life-threatening condition and intensive medical treatment is continuing.”

      The incident happened when Croatian police fired on a group of irregular migrants trying to reach neighboring Slovenia. As AP reports, Croatian police said they fired the shots “to protect Croatia’s borders.”

      The Croatian interior minister Davor Bozinovic told media that “police officers were preventing the passage of a group which most probably wanted to reach Slovenia.” He further said that one man was wounded probably due to the use of firearms. Bozinovic did not say how many people were in the group or give their nationalities.

      The interior ministry said regional authorities would investigate the incident, which took place in the mountainous Gorski Kotar area close to Rijeka, a Croatian port city around 20 kilometers (12 miles) from the Slovenian border.

      Critical situation

      Rights groups have repeatedly accused Croatian authorities of using excessive force against migrants irregularly entering from neighboring Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, both non-EU countries. The EU-member state Croatia has repeatedly denied the charges.

      Croatia, which wants to join the EU’s border-free Schengen area, has to convince Brussels that it is able to effectively manage the bloc’s external border. This is a particularly sensitive issue since Europe’s 2015 so-called migrant crisis.

      Croatia is on the so-called Balkan route taken by many migrants from the Middle East and central Asia trying to reach wealthier EU states. Some of those migrants cross into Croatia from Bosnia undeclared. In recent months, more and more refugees and migrants have arrived in Europe via the southern/western Balkan route: EU border agency Frontex registered 8,400 border crossings in the first 10 months of 2019 - an 82% increase compared to the same period last year.

      Storm sweeps through migrant camp in Bosnia

      In Croatia’s neighboring state Bosnia and Herzegovina, a storm on Friday blew many tents away in a bleak makeshift camp for migrants who are trying to reach western Europe. Migrants staying in the Vucjak camp near the border with Croatia were appealing for help on Saturday after spending a sleepless night looking for shelter.

      On Friday, hundreds of locals protested against the migrants’ presence and demanded the closure of overcrowded refugee camps and the relocation of the migrants from the city area.

      The European Union and numerous international organizations have repeatedly called for the closure of the Vucjak camp, which is located on a former landfill and is near a minefield left over from Bosnia’s 1992-95 war.

      Hundreds of migrants have been staying there with almost no facilities since the authorities in northwestern Bosnia set up the camp earlier this year. Bosnia, which has become a migrant hot-spot since 2018, has repeatedly accused Croatia of returning migrants to Bosnia even when they are found deep in its territory.

      This practice called “pushbacks” is prohibited under the Geneva Refugee Convention, which provided the principle of nonrefoulement.

      https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/20899/croatian-police-fire-on-irregular-migrants-near-slovenian-border

    • https://www.borderviolence.eu/wp-content/uploads/Press-Briefing-19th-November-2019-1.pdf

      voir aussi:
      14/10/2019: “[they] started beating men with sticks, they beat me on my shoulder and back”

      Date and time: October 14, 2019 03:00
      Location: South east of #Komesarac, Croatia
      Coordinates: 45.09186791983132, 15.769071046238082
      Push-back from: Croatia
      Push-back to: Bosnia
      Demographics: 35 person(s), age: 2 - 45 (including minors aged 2, 5, 6, 7 and 8) , from: Palestine, Syria, Iraq
      Minors involved? Yes
      Violence used: beating (with batons/hands/other), kicking, threatening with guns, forcing to undress, destruction of personal belongings, theft of personal belongings
      Police involved: 10 Croatian officers dressed in blue uniforms with gunns, 2 police cars, 3 vans, 6/7 officers in camourflage uniform
      Taken to a police station?: yes
      Treatment at police station or other place of detention: detention, no translator present, denial of access to toilets, denial of food/water
      Was the intention to ask for asylum expressed?: Yes
      Reported by: Border Violence Monitoring

      Original Report

      A Syrian family joined a group of 35 people (mostly families from Syria and Palestine and a few single men from Iraq), and attempted to cross the Bosnian-Croatian border. They started walking from Velika Kladuša and walked for a day and a half through the woods and mountains. Once they were inside Croatian territory they decided to take a rest in the woods. The group fell asleep only to be woken up at 03:00 in the morning of 14th October 2019 by rapid gun fire and shouts of, “Freeze!”.

      They family noticed ten men in blue uniforms of Croatian police surrounding them, firing shots in the air:

      “like in a movie, they forced all men to lie down on their stomachs with our hands behind our heads, women no, they were just standing aside”.

      Not long after, the police ordered them to make a line and start walking, while police was escorting the line on both sides, pointing their guns at them.

      “We walked maybe 30 minutes, we reached a place with a hole already waiting for us, the fire was already burning, ready for our stuff. They took everyone’s backpacks, bags and sleeping bags and for single men they took jackets also. Everything was burned. I asked if I can take my baby’s food from the bag and they said no, took my backpack and threw it in the fire.”

      They were searched over their clothes and had their phones taken away from them. Some phones were thrown on the ground and stomped-on with police boots while some were just taken away and never returned. Two police cars and three vans arrived, everyone was forced to go inside them and driven for an hour to the police station where they were detained for two hours with no food, water, access to toilet or the presence of a translator.

      “They didn’t even talk to us, we asked them to take our fingerprints, one man in the group spoke good English and he explained to the police what we want (referring to asylum claim). The police was just laughing and didn’t do anything.”

      Instead, the transit group were again put in the three police vans which drove for around one hour and a half to the border-area, where they were made to go out of the vans and saw six to seven police in camouflage uniforms waiting for them.

      “Commandos in camouflage color started beating men with sticks, they beat me on my shoulder and back [he shows a picture of the bruises from his phone] and kicking us in our knees or behind our knees, yelling at us to start walking faster. They were walking behind us, beating and yelling for a few hundred meters than they stopped and we were told to continue by ourselves.”

      Once returned to BiH, the group walked for four to five hours to reach Velika Kladuša, where they took the bus to Sedra camp, close to Bihac.

      https://www.borderviolence.eu/violence-reports/october-14-2019-0300-south-east-of-komesarac-croatia