• Noam Chomsky : « Notre priorité en Ukraine devrait être de sauver les vies, pas de punir la Russie. »
    https://www.les-crises.fr/noam-chomsky-notre-priorite-en-ukraine-devrait-etre-de-sauver-les-vies-pa

    Près de trois mois après le début de la guerre en Ukraine, la paix n’est pas en vue. En fait, le niveau de destruction s’est intensifié et les deux parties semblent avoir peu d’espoir de parvenir à un règlement pacifique dans un avenir proche. En outre, la situation internationale se détériore, car certains pays européens […]

    • Unpopular opinion. Revenir aussi sur chomsky assad et a Syrie.
      « La position du linguiste américain et célèbre activiste de gauche Noam Chomsky sur le soulèvement syrien qui s’est transformé en guerre par procuration est une trahison du peuple syrien, écrit l’analyste Sam Hamad. Il a laissé son approche anti-impérialiste inébranlable l’aveugler sur les complexités et les contradictions du printemps arabe. »

      vince remos sur Twitter : « pour rappel chomsky est une m.. » / Twitter
      https://twitter.com/vinceremoss/status/1525362463650328576

      Chomsky then uses Zelenskyy as an example to ’prove’ Ukraine isn’t demanding heavy weapons, and that this is just Western propaganda.

      Yes, that Zelenskyy. twitter.com/ChrisDYork/sta…

    • Mais c’est pas nouveau, ça : ça fait depuis les années 60 que Chomsky hérisse les thuriféraires de telle ou telle guerre/révolution que cette fois-ci elle est bonne, et que cette fois faudrait y voir un peu à ce que ces gauchistes (qui n’ont rigoureusement aucun impact sur la réalité de la géopolitique) arrêtent avec leur anti-impérialisme qui n’est rien d’autre que de la complaisance pour les dictateurs génocidaires et que c’est une trahison de ces braves gens qui vont se faire trucider pour la bonne cause. Vraiment, depuis les années 60 c’est à chaque fois le même cirque.

    • Sinon, Sam Haddad continue à faire son miel avec ses conneries sur Chomsky, malgré les échanges qu’il a eu avec lui et qu’il a évidemment publiés (parce qu’avoir un échange avec Chomsky, même te disant que tu racontes des foutaises, c’est classieux) :

      You Want the Truth ? A Correspondence with Noam Chomsky on Syria | TUMBLEWEED
      https://herecomesthetumbleweed.wordpress.com/2017/04/30/you-want-the-truth-a-correspondence-with-noam-chom

      Chomsky [in bold replying to my last email]:

      I have never written that you support Assad in a direct manner.

      Or in an indirect manner. I have condemned him repeatedly as a “monster” who is responsible for the vast majority of the crimes.

      However, while Patrick Cockburn, who you cite as the foremost authority on Syria

      Cockburn is cited quite generally as an authority on Syria, including by those who completely disagree with him. I am sure you can comprehend that.

      is a direct supporter of the Assad regime, Russia and Iran – those who are currently perpetrating a near-genocide in Syria. Do you want me to link to his testimony to the British parliament where he argues that the the UK ought to hook up with Assad in Syria to fight Daesh? Do you understand the implication of this?

      Yes, I understand it, and it is totally irrelevant to your slanders.

      I know you think that the Syrian rebels are all actually al-Qaeda and/or al-Qaeda-lite, but this just simply isn’t true.

      Correct. It is certainly not true and I have never suggested anything of the sort. I’m familiar with your views, and I don’t lie about them. You have, for some reason, concocting your own fantasies about my views, and you continue to lie outrageously about what you claim to be my views. I don’t know what you are up to, but this lying is quite astonishing.

    • Il y a, en gros, deux façons de mettre fin à cette guerre : un règlement diplomatique négocié ou la destruction de l’un ou l’autre camp, soit rapidement, soit dans une agonie prolongée. Ce ne sera pas la Russie qui sera détruite. Il est incontestable que la Russie a la capacité d’anéantir l’Ukraine, et si Poutine et sa cohorte sont acculés au pied du mur, ils pourraient, en désespoir de cause, utiliser cette capacité. C’est ce à quoi devraient s’attendre ceux qui dépeignent Poutine comme un « fou » plongé dans les illusions d’un nationalisme romantique et d’aspirations mondiales brutales.

      Il s’agit clairement d’une expérience que personne ne veut entreprendre – du moins personne qui se préoccupe un tant soit peu des Ukrainiens.

      La précision est malheureusement nécessaire. Il existe des voix respectées dans le courant dominant qui défendent simultanément deux points de vue : (1) Poutine est en effet un « fou furieux » capable de tout et qui pourrait se venger sauvagement s’il était acculé au mur ; (2) « L’Ukraine doit gagner. C’est la seule issue acceptable. » Nous pouvons aider l’Ukraine à vaincre la Russie, disent-ils, en lui fournissant des équipements et un entraînement militaires de pointe, et en mettant Poutine au pied du mur.

      Ces deux positions ne peuvent être défendues simultanément que par des personnes qui se soucient si peu du sort des Ukrainiens qu’elles sont prêtes à tenter une expérience pour voir si le « fou furieux » se dérobera dans la défaite ou utilisera la force écrasante dont il dispose pour anéantir l’Ukraine. Dans tous les cas, les partisans de ces deux points de vue sont gagnants. Si Poutine accepte tranquillement la défaite, ils gagnent. S’il anéantit l’Ukraine, ils gagnent : cela justifiera des mesures bien plus sévères pour punir la Russie.

      D’un côté, tu as des arguments purement viscéraux, de l’autre, tu lis Chomsky, et tu as des raisonnements fluides et pleins d’intelligence. Ok, c’est plus complexe, car oui, comment « gagner » la guerre sans négocier ? Et en fait, tu comprends que personne, du côté occidental, n’a vraiment envie de négocier, depuis très longtemps. Depuis aussi longtemps que les accords de Minsk ont été dédaignés et torpillés par les américains et certains ukrainiens.

    • Un « arrangement » aujourd’hui nous plongera dans l’incertitude avec des variables difficiles à contrôler. (9/10)
      […]
      Il faut être conscient dans quoi on s’engage si on laisse la Russie « garder la face » et reprendre des forces. (10/10)

      Anna Colin Lebedev

      Il faut être conscient dans quoi on s’engage si on veut à toutes forces que la Russie « perde la face ».
      Vous avez dit #incontrôlable ?…

    • Je relève dans l’entretien de Chomsky :

      Poutine ne veut-il pas la paix en Ukraine ? [Polychroniou]
      ...
      Et les États-Unis continuent de maintenir cette position aujourd’hui, faisant ainsi obstacle à un règlement négocié selon les grandes lignes décrites par Zelenskyy, quel qu’en soit le coût pour les Ukrainiens.
      ...
      Lors de la conférence de presse, Poutine a semblé rejoindre les États-Unis en préférant « le contraire de la diplomatie et de l’habileté politique », bien que ses remarques n’excluent pas ces options. Si les pourparlers de paix sont aujourd’hui dans une « impasse », cela ne signifie pas qu’ils ne peuvent pas être repris, au mieux avec la participation engagée des grandes puissances, la Chine et les États-Unis.
      ...
      Je pense qu’il [Poutine] veut la paix – à ses conditions. (Quel monstre n’en veut pas ?)

      En gros pour Chomsky Zelensky et Poutine sont prêts à négocier et faire la paix mais ce sont les Etats-Unis qui font obstacle et qui veulent la guerre (pas comme le monstre Poutine). Si Poutine refuse de négocier c’est juste qu’il rejoint les Etats-Unis...

      Le nyt (et d’autres) au contraire demande(nt) aux US de faire pression sur Zelensky pour qu’il soit prêt à faire des concessions plutôt que de le suivre jusqu’au bout.

    • Une négociation est-elle possible en Ukraine ? - La Vie des idées
      https://laviedesidees.fr/Une-negociation-est-elle-possible-en-Ukraine.html

      Les négociations autour de la guerre en Ukraine laissent perplexe. Qui peut endosser le rôle de médiateur dans de telles circonstances ? Peut-on prendre au sérieux l’idée même de médiation, compte tenu de l’ampleur des exactions commises par la Russie en Ukraine ?

    • Cela ne signifie pas qu’ils ne peuvent pas être repris, au mieux avec la participation engagée des grandes puissances, la Chine et les États-Unis.

      La Chine n’a jamais dit clairement si elle soutenait ou non Vladimir Poutine. Mais il apparaît désormais de façon claire qu’elle n’abandonnera pas la Russie pour des raisons sécuritaires et géostratégiques. Peu importe le prix élevé à payer

      Guerre en Ukraine : l’UE dénonce un « pacte inquiétant » entre la Russie et la Chine

    • [Le point de vue d’Henry Kissinger (95) sur l’urgence des négociations]

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/05/23/henry-kissinger-warns-against-defeat-russia-western-unity-sanctions

      Dr Kissinger said the war must not be allowed to drag on for much longer, and came close to calling on the West to bully Ukraine into accepting negotiations on terms that fall very far short of its current war aims.

      #Negotiations need to begin in the next two months before it creates upheavals and tensions that will not be easily overcome. Ideally, the dividing line should be a return to the status quo ante. Pursuing the war beyond that point would not be about the freedom of #Ukraine, but a new war against Russia itself,” he said.

      He told the World Economic Forum that Russia had been an essential part of Europe for 400 years and had been the guarantor of the European balance of power structure at critical times. European leaders should not lose sight of the longer term relationship, and nor should they risk pushing Russia into a permanent alliance with China.

      “I hope the Ukrainians will match the heroism they have shown with wisdom,” he said, adding with his famous sense of realpolitik that the proper role for the country is to be a neutral buffer state rather than the frontier of #Europe.

      The comments came amid growing signs that the Western coalition against Vladimir Putin is fraying badly as the food and energy crisis deepens, and that sanctions may have reached their limits.

      [#Habeck, totalement inapte à son poste et désorienté, n’a pas compris les signes du temps - il risque tout simplement une crise énergétique sans précédent en #Autriche, #Allemagne, #Slowakie, #Hungrie]

      “We’re seeing the worst of Europe,” said German vice-chancellor Robert Habeck in an angry outburst in Davos, accusing Hungary and other recalcitrant states of paralysing attempts by the rest of the EU to craft a full-fledged oil embargo.

      Mr Habeck, who doubles as economy minister, said Germany is more or less ready to endure the shock of a total cut-off in Russian oil imports but others want to carry on as if nothing had changed. “I expect everyone to work to find a solution, and not to sit back and work on building their partnership with Putin,” he said.

      Yuriy Vitrenkio, head of the Ukrainian energy consortium Naftogas, said the refuseniks are demanding exemptions from the embargo on false pretences. “What they really want is a free-ride on discounted Russian oil,” he said.

      #Russie #Davos

  • Greater Russia is now a full-spectrum commodity superpower, less vulnerable to sanctions than Europe itself
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/02/24/greater-russia-now-full-spectrum-commodity-superpower-less-vulnerable

    Par Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

    The West’s pain threshold is about to be tested – Fortress Russia will endure this contest of self-reliance more stoically than Europe.

    #paywall pour moi, mais pas pour tout le monde semble-t-il

    #Russie

    • In a matter of hours, the world order has turned drastically less favourable for the western democracies.

      Vladimir Putin’s seizure of Ukraine elevates Russia into a full-spectrum commodity superpower, adding critical market leverage over global grain supply to existing strategic depth in energy and metals.

      We wake up to the sobering reality that Russia is too pivotal for the international trading system to punish in any meaningful way. It influences or determines everything from bread in the shops, to gas for Europe’s homes and power plants, to supply chains for aerospace and car plants, or soon will do if Kyiv falls.

      Who knew that almost 90pc of Europe’s imports of rapeseed oil comes from Ukraine, or Spain’s jamon iberica depends on grain feed from the black earth belt of the Ukrainian steppe?

      Ukraine turns Putin’s neo-Tsarist empire into the Saudi Arabia of food, controlling 30pc of global wheat exports and 20pc of corn exports.

      It is not just Brent crude oil that has spiked violently, hitting an eight-year high of $102. Aluminium smashed all records on Thursday. Chicago wheat futures have hit $9.32 a bushel, the highest since the hunger riots before the Arab Spring.

      Do not confuse this with inflation. Rocketing commodity prices are a transfer of wealth to exporters of raw materials. For Europeans at the sharp end, it acts like a tax, leaving less to spend elsewhere. It is deflationary for most of the economy. If it continues for long, we will slide into recession.

      So while there is brave and condign talk of crippling sanctions against Russia, it is the West’s pain threshold that is about to be tested. My presumption is that Fortress Russia will endure this contest of self-reliance more stoically than Europe’s skittish elites.

      Sanctions are of course imperative as a political statement. The West would be complicit if it did nothing. But the measures on the table do not change the equation.

      The debate in Parliament over whether to hit a few more oligarchs or restrict City access for more Russian banks has bordered on parody: Brits talking to Brits in a surreal misunderstanding of raw geopolitics, as if Putin was going to give up his unrepeatable chance to snatch back Kyivan Rus and shatter the post-Cold War dispensation of Europe because David Lamy is vexed by golden visas.

      Nor does the temporary German suspension of Nord Stream 2 change anything. The pipeline was never going to supply extra gas this decade. The Kremlin’s purpose was to reroute the same Siberian gas, switching it from the Ukrainian corridor to the Baltic, depriving Kyiv of self-defence leverage.

      Once Putin controls Ukraine, Nord Stream 2 instantly becomes irrelevant.

      The cardinal error was made in June 2015 when Germany went ahead with the bilateral pipeline just a year after the annexation of Crimea, signalling that the first Anschluss of 21st Century Europe would go unpunished, or worse, that it would be rewarded with a strategic prize.

      If you want to date the death of a sovereign democratic Ukraine, it was that decision. Royal Dutch Shell was an abettor. Putin got our measure.

      The 36pc fall in the MOEX index in Moscow on Thursday morning means that western investors with a Russian portfolio through pension funds or ETFs have lost money. It does not mean that Russian is being forced to its knees, as some would have it.

      Nor does the modest decline in the rouble imply unmanageable economic stress. Russia’s exchange rate mechanism is designed to let the currency take the strain, cushioning the internal budget against shocks.

      Russia is sitting on $635bn of foreign exchange reserves. It has a national debt of 18pc of GDP, one of the lowest in the world. It has a fiscal surplus and does not rely heavily on foreign investors to finance the state. This renders US sanctions against new issuance of sovereign bonds a mere nuisance.

      The Kremlin is enjoying a windfall gain from commodities. Benchmark gas futures contracts for March have hit extreme levels of €120 a megawatt hour. Russia is earning $700m a day from sales of oil to Europe and to the US, which needs heavy Urals crude to replace sulphurous Venezuelan barrels for its refineries.

      The harsh truth is that Europe would spiral into crisis within weeks if flows of Russian gas were cut off – by either side. The short-term loss of revenue for the Kremlin would be a small fraction of Russian gold, euro, and dollar reserves. There is no symmetry in this. Whatever the rhetoric, energy business as usual will proceed.

      The US and Europe can and will enforce a technology blockade, restricting Russia’s access to advanced semiconductor chips, acting in tandem with Taiwan’s TSMC and Korea’s Samsung. This will hurt but it will take time. Russia has stockpiles. It has its own producers able to make mid-level chips down to 28-nanometres.

      China may be irritated by how far Putin has gone in Ukraine but it will not join Western sanctions. Nor will it stop Chinese companies supplying chips to Russia through deniable middlemen and plugging some gaps in technology.

      Putin can reasonably calculate that Western zeal for sustaining this hi-tech embargo will wane before it does irreversible damage to Russia.

      Europe has vetoed expulsion of Russia from the SWIFT nexus of global payments for fear of the systemic blowback into its own banks, and because it would have made it hard to pay for Putin’s oil, gas, metals, and grains – leaving aside the risk that Russia might go all the way up the retaliation ladder.

      The US itself is ambivalent over shutting down SWIFT because it would accelerate the de-dollarisation of global finance.

      If the US plays its trump card, it risks losing the card. China and Russia already have their own payment systems that could be linked for bilateral trade.

      So one watches the western pantomime over sanctions with a jaundiced eye, knowing that almost everything being discussed is largely beside the point, and that only military strength matters when push comes to a 200,000-man military shove.

      The errors that led to this lie in years of European disarmament, the result of both wishful thinking by a complacent elite and because of fiscal austerity imposed by EU commissars during the eurozone crisis, with no regard for the larger strategic picture.

      It is the fruit of periodic “resets” in relations with the Putin regime, invariably forgiving his sins, and dressing up commercial self-interest as if it were an attempt to lure him away from a Chinese axis of autocracies.

      The final trigger was Joe Biden’s decision last July to override Congressional sanctions against Nord Stream 2, selling out Ukraine in a deal with Angela Merkel.

      President Biden thought he could “park” Russia on one side and focus on China. He appointed a known Russophile as a key adviser on Russia. He neglected to appoint a US ambassador in Kyiv, long leaving matters in the hands of a junior with a taste for the quiet life, to the point of toning down cables to the White House that might have raised alarm.

      Putin drew the conclusion that this was his moment to strike.

      We can only pray for brave Ukrainians fighting without air cover against crushing military might. More Stinger and Javelin missiles would have helped enormously a few months ago but it is almost certainly too late now to change the outcome by shipping out weapons.

      Kyiv will be ringed with tanks and howitzers within hours. To talk of protracted guerrilla warfare at this stage is to offer the counsel of despair, or to talk for the sake of talking.

      The West must fall back to the next line of defence, the Nato line from Estonia to Romania, and face the long arduous task of military rearmament.

      It would have been easier and wiser to stiffen a democratic Ukraine while we could. Now we face a reconstituted Russian empire in tooth claw, as far West as the Carpathians, with a stranglehold on the raw materials of our existence.

      None of this was inevitable. It is the result of systematic policy failure.